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Raffyb
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Well its pretty obvious that most geeks prefer Linux but I was wondering why they prefer it.
I'm a Kubuntu fan but I'm always willing to try new distributions, which is the geekiest operating system (something that common computer users can't understand) and why?


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warlock
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Check out this. https://www.howtogeek.com/howto/14128/ask-the-readers-what-operating-system-do-you-use/ you will probably get more on this subject now that Windows 8 is on scene. Check back.

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whs
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Linux is too messy. Windows 7 is probably the one that most geeks use.

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Raffyb
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>Thanks for replying quick warlock but that post doesn't really answer my questions.
>Well whs I don't think that most geeks use windows since linux is completely free and has more capabilities than windows but I'm not saying that your wrong it's just my point of view.

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whs
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Just look at the market shares - Windows 92%, Linux 2%

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Raffyb
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I know but that 2% are most likely development geeks that think that human advancement should be free not paid for (e.g. windows). My prediction is that Linux will completely take over the operating system battle firstly and foremost because Linux is open source, secondly Linux community is increasing quiet fast and maturing and finally it comes in so many different flavors!
>Did you know Android iOS and Chromium OS is Linux based?

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whs
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Listen, I have been around Linux (foremost Unix) since over 25 years. It has never beaten the 2% bar and I predict it will not do that in the next 25 years. In e.g. the mobile world it has disappeared completely after some initial inroads.

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Raffyb
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Even though you might have more experience than me I will debate about this topic until I'm proven wrong I know windows have the lead (for now) but Linux users are increasing daily eventually Linux and windows will be paired. The main reason why users don's use Linux is because its not too user friendly but the latest updated versions of Linux kind of resolve these issues for example since Ubuntu unity update its popularity increased quiet a bit. And what do you mean by "In e.g. the mobile world it has disappeared completely after some initial inroads."? Android is Linux based, Android is completely taking over the smartphone battle.
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raphoenix
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One problem Linux has always faced is Unavailable Machine Device Drivers for many Hardware components.

It has gotten better over the years but still is a problem with pre-built machines.

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whs
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Yes Android is originally Linux based. But there is very little left of Linux. And Ubuntu Unity - what a disaster.

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Raffyb
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>Yes that's completely true raphoenix computer hardware companies such as Nvidia are making their graphic processing units completely compatible with Linux so the machine drives wont be a problem in the future. I'm so glad that Linux is advancing before windows had a big advantage over the number of applications but winehq has clearly fixed that issue.
>Well whs its all up to the users' preference, I'm very interested in complicated operating systems that normal users can't manage. If you ever change your mind and want to try Linux I suggest going for Linux Mint 13 KDE. I'm into all-around development so I don't mind tweaking a few things to get the tasks I want to perform finalized and in that process I get a great feeling of accomplishment.

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nosparks
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Think this discussion is in the wrong category. Should be moved to ZDnet .

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jmeeks49
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Raffyb,

debate on, i am a 51 year old disabled man who has low vision and cerebral palsy to boot i am a avid windows user why? because i have ran all of the Linux distributions that's out there and none of them come close to doing what win 7 does as far as accessibility goes the only one that does is zorin. So, all of this hogwash about the development side of things should be left out in my opinion and to be left up to the end user. I am not here to promote disability rights or anything but just stating the facts from my point of view. WHS is a friend of mine and he can agree with me or not but i think that this thread is to broad of a range for the end user here.

John

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ronniesonora
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jmeeks49, excellence point of view!

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jmeeks49
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Thanks Ronnie,

it just amazes me how these Linux "people" think that they have a cure for the common cold but yet they want to boast about what they can or can't do it's a shame that they can't see beyond the limited limitations of what they actually can do i guess whatever floats your boat..

John

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whs
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John you are right. Linux is for the specialist who loves to spread himself/herself on the command line.

I have tried a few distros but eventually I always got stuck when I wanted to do something a bit out of the ordinary which was easy to do in Windows. I think that explains the fact that their market share never got much above 1%. The big news in 2009 was that they passed the 1% and I think now they are around 1.25% - and those are PC numbers, not mobile.

In mobile, some people now count Android in. But Android has become another cat; only some of the Linux kernel is left. The Linux proper has quasi vanished in mobile - below 0.1%.

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jmeeks49
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Wolfgang,

i didn't mean to single you out but the OP mention your name and a around about way was going to start a fight thread involving you over and the distros but i am not having any part of it you can't make chicken salad out of chicken sh** like my dad said LOL LOL LOL and the distros are no exceptions. i will stand up for my friends, friendship is important to me and i consider you as a friend you can even ask mike i am just that way.

John

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whs
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John, we are of the same opinion. But other people are entitled to their opinion. If they are happy with it, so be it.

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jmeeks49
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true..

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Hermitt
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This half-fast geek prefers Windows 7 'cause It's Gr-r-reat!


Jim

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germ-x
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Different toys for different people.
Do you like to drive an automatic or standard shift in city traffic, think about that one for a while. Windows7 is the automatic and Linux is the standard shift.

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warlock
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Good comparison.

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whs
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I used to prefer a standard shift - had both automatic and standard since 1964. But now at my age I prefer an automatic. Just traded my last standard for an automatic. So preferences can change over time.

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warlock
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City traffic does make a difference on which I would choose.

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hArLtRoN
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I mainly use Windows 7 but I am starting to venture into the world that is Linux. At the moment I am seeing what distribution I like best.

I currently have Linux Mint installed on my home PC.

My school has Ubuntu installed on the netbooks and I like what I am able to get into on them. The account students have to use are non admin for obvious reasons.

So far I'm liking Linux Mint the best. I am going to try Kubuntu next.

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StringJunky
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People like to travel the path of least resistance and that's why Windows is number one! Linux needs .exe files, or similar, to have any hope of grabbing more market share but it won't be allowed because it makes the system more vulnerable...that's why you can't just get stuff and run it.

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owen123
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I Like Windows, mainly XP and 7 (Hate Vista), and Windows 8 is growing on me. Windows is good for everything, but given a money no object choice, I would pick Mac, just because in my experience it is quicker, nicer to look at, and requires low maintenance.

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Lighthouse
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Anything that works for me. Prefer Vista, and 3 different versions of MSdos.

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jmeeks49
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Showing your age LH? :-) Dos is ok been reluctant to get back in to it always have wanted to ahhh yes!!!! i remember running a bulletin board back in the day fun times.

John

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Xhi
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Personally, I cotton to the old adage that your first is your best. Therefore, I vote for the Borroughs B5500 MCP (Master Control Program)

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LadyFitzgerald
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John, you're giving your age away. ; )

I went from my Commodore 64 to mainframe terminals at work (the "software) was preset for us for data retrieval only), NT at work, then XP, first at work, then at home. I liked the mainframe terminal keyboards (nothing else). NT was a dozer. Eventually liked XP. Skipped Vista for good reason. Loved Win7 from the word go when I first got it last summer (still learning to use it). Have no intention of using Win8.

But, then again, I'm not exactly a geek (not even a wannabe).

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Drizzle
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Like LH,as long as it does the job 'whatever',
Why all the dislike 'Vista' ?
I love it and no intention unless forced to win7 and up.....but then again what does granny know :):)

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LadyFitzgerald
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Vista was a resource hog, klunky to use, and many programs and hardware wouldn't work on it (the latter was it's biggest sin for me—I would have had to replace a scanner, laser printer, and an expensive music notation program—although, supposedly, much of the other two sins had been corrected by SP1).

If you are happy with Vista, then stay with it (like I did with XP; I've only recently started using Win7); there's nothing wrong with that. EOL for Vista isn't until 4/11/2017 so you have some breathing room.

"...what does Granny know?" More than I do!

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djhull3917
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windows 7, 8 defo, however i do like linux distros for programming c++ etc as the compilers are pretty nice, however day to day use and web programming etc defo win 7!/8

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Lighthouse
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LF, Vista is not a resource hog (especially if you configure it correctly (and I run very low end systems))
Not had a problem with programs or drivers either.

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whs
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LF, I agree with LH. Vista is a great system. Once SP1 was installed, I never had any problems. And even before that, there was very little to complain. And I started with Vista on the first day (Febr.1, 2007).

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StringJunky
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Vista was sound when I had it reliability and function-wise. It's just a bit slower than W7 overall...only bad running on a gig ram or less. When Vista came out it was too often rolled out with systems that only had 1 gig ram and that was too low for it and hence gave it a bad rep. W7 has not suffered this because 2 gig is the minimum now in a budget system which is fine.

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Lighthouse
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So true Tony. An update to 2GB worked wonders.

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whs
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I remember that lady from Portugal that came here to seek advice on a terrible performance problem. They had sold her a Vista Ultimate laptop with 512MB. - There are bad sales people all over the world. LH may remember that one too.

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StringJunky
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LH

That's the crux of why Vista failed so spectacularly imo. 2gig hadn't become the budget-system standard when Vista came out. Remember, it was coming from XP where a gig was plenty and vendors didn't catch on and adapt quick enough to the heavier memory requirements of the then new Vista.

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LadyFitzgerald
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What you all are saying about Vista is probably true. I only used it only on friends' computers so I don't know how much RAM they had (except for one that had it on an Acer Apire One netbook that had the Atom processor that could handle no more than 1 GB of RAM; that was a marriage made in hell!; went there, too) but they were all sluggish dogs if doing anything more than web browsing. Had M$ specified that a minimum of 2 GB RAM was required, mayhap a lot of the grief could have been averted. Another feature people hated was the more intrusive UAC Vista had that drove people nuts.

As I said, the fatal blow for Vista for me had to do with hardware and software incompatibility. Some of that was from manufacurers that were slow (or refused) to respond with the updates needed to allow their hardware and software to operate properly with Vista.

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ProstheticHead
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When I'm not using CP/M on my trusty old MZ700, I generally use windows 7, CyanogenMod, Snow Leopard 10.6.8, Mac OS 7.1, Server 2008r2, WHS 2011 and Windows Thin PC, all to varying extents.

But yeah, if you actually want to get something done with a minimum of fuss, it's got to be Windows 7.

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jhwalker
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Windows 8 or Ubuntu or Raspbian

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germ-x
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I think the biggest dump on Vista was the transition from XP. Many folks jumped ship over the learning curve. What made it more unatractive was Vista before SP1 plus some hardware and software complaints. The other big problem was as mentioned the shortage of RAM in many machines.
Sort of like Windows ME. Didn't last long.
Funny nobody mention the transition from win3.1 to win95. Win95 was a real winner correct drivers were hard to find and windows didn't like them half the time. That's when the tape backup images became necessary. Didn't want to lose the setup.
BTW: Windows 7 is a very good and reliable O/S but again windows 8 has that transition period. All the younger folks with the Ipads, tablets and alike probably will find Windows 8 very easy to use.

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bobro
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Windows Server 2008 skinned to look and feel like win7, so far this is my fave due to stability... at home i am on Windows 8... I think the notion of Geeks all wanting to use Linux has long gone, having an OS that others dont and no one elase understands was cool but being able to quickly and reliably install new devices, software, games and be able to use them in no time is way cooler. i loved ubuntu back in the day but i just couldnt do as much on it as fast as i could in windows! The compiz fusion was great to make it good looking but the green speckles it left everywhere because the drivers for the GPU i had sucked, probably writen by some guy in his bedroom who got bord halfway through because he knew he wasnt getting paid for it!!

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StringJunky
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There will never be as much effort put into an OS as there was in W7 by MS...after the poor uptake and problems with Vista, MS Knew W7 had to be spot on and I think they did an excellent job. Looks like they may have another Vista scenario on their hands with W8 looming...they'll put it right though I think.

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Raffyb
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My account was blocked for some odd reason. Thank you everyone for replying and pointing out your views about operating systems. To me Linux is the way to go since I like to accomplish everything through the terminal. But everything comes down to the end user's preference different geeks like different things.

I found this really useful The Best Linux Distributions

I'm currently running Linux Arch on my main PC I absolutely love it!

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whs
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There is the Linux problem. To some people it may be an advantage to be able to choose between a gezillion distros. But for most people that is a nightmare. If all those developers would bundle their forces and produce ONE Linux, I am sure that would be a superb system. But the way it is right now, it is just a mess.

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Superevil
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Bring back BeOS!!

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pbureau
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I have been using computers since 1978, I am a CNA since 1985, A Linux Administrator since 1990, Windows certified since 1995, I consider myself a professional 'geek'. now that said, I have seen many operating system from CP/M, Z80 Based, Unix, OS/2 Warp, BeOS, Linux Since Slackware 1.0 and other variations, windows since it has been born out of the garage of IBM's MS DOS wake.

Operating systems are like underwear, you like boxers or tighty whities ? does it matter?
More importantly is does the operating system perform what you need it to do?

I have a disabled daughter, and she Uses Windows 7, because the accessibility software package permits her to use her eyes to use a on screen keyboard.
I have a wife that enjoys the internet and gaming, and is a web page designer, what does she use, yep Windows 7 as well.

Now I have... numerous Computers, some older some top of the line, and I have everything in between when I deal with my clients, what do I prefer to use ? windows 8 why ? because it runs faster on my dual Pentium laptop then windows 7 has. I also have 6 removable drives for another test pc that I use for customer Q&A issues and personal testing of drivers. I carry Ubuntu, Windows xp, Windows 7 Windows 8, only because they are the only operating systems I support and the one the manufacturers support for their hardware, and this is the biggest issue, hardware.... if developer do not create drivers, the operating software is doomed to become instinct

what OS I have prefer(ed), personally I loved BeOs, and IBM OS/2 Warp (I know I made some smile here), Windows then Unbuntu in that order. :) cheers

yes I did not even mention Apple OS as at it is not an hardware/Software package that supported enough devices my clients use and therefore I have no need to investigate it, personally I refuse to use it because it is based on "controlled hardware" definitions because apple has scares people coule not need them if they could design drivers for it.

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