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Lighthouse
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Why the heck is everyone jumping onto this ?

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CompWiz
Posts: 864

?

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Lighthouse
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Far too buggy (more so than my bed), And lack of drivers. Happens every time.

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CompWiz
Posts: 864

You upgraded?

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Lighthouse
Posts: 13598

I is a Vista man :)

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GuiltySpark
Posts: 4024

E G O!!!

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Lighthouse
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Sarah is a Vista woman !

Best OS out there (still run MSDOS on an old laptop tho. Love that too)

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CompWiz
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I'll stick to 7 for a while.

Although, we already purchasing PC's here at work pre-installed with Windows 8 plus we just received two Dell servers running Windows Server 2012.

Yikes!

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Lighthouse
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Best of luck :)

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CompWiz
Posts: 864

Thanks, much needed.

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LadyFitzgerald
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Not everyone is jumping into Win 8. I'm definitely not. And, based on what I've been reading elsewhere, I have a lot of company. Keep in mind this is a geek site and many of the members here, besides a desire to be on top of the latest technology, many have a need to do so because they work on other people's machines. From what I've read about Win 8 (and I've fooled around with a friend's win 8 machine), the UI formerly known as Metro is too cumbersome for my needs. It's great for people who use tablets or use their computers for email, social networking, light web surfing, etc. but for serious productivity, it gets in the way. There are ways to get many of Win 7's features back with third party programs but why bother with that when Win 7 already has them? Besides, I already have two retail copies of Win 7 Ultimate and one retail copy of Win 7 Home Premium. Win 7 meets my needs so I'll probably stick with it until its last dying gasp 01/14/2020. I have no problems with new technology but only if it actually benefits me and at a price I'm willing to pay.

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CompWiz
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LF, couldn't agree with you more.

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GuiltySpark
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I'm sticking with Vista until I no longer can. Have used Win 8 DP and CP versions and saw nothing of much interest to a non touch screen user, also have an Android Tablet which is kind of similar in a way, but could never imagine using a (mini) mouse with it.

Some things are just designed for a certain kind of operation.

Just my 2 squids worth.

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Lighthouse
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Good man :)

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LadyFitzgerald
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Vista will be around until 4/11/2017. XP has a little over year before it sounds its death knell.

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GuiltySpark
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@ LF,

By that time I'm hoping someone will be able to take Win 7's SP1 or SP2 (if they ever decide to do it), strip it down and turn it into an SP3 for Vista :) :)
Fingers crossed.

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LadyFitzgerald
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@ GS. The only problem with that is M$ support still ends for Vista and I seriously doubt the AV and malware folks will continue to write definitions for it. You could buy one or more copies of a retail version of Win 7 now while it's still available but that would be kinda expensive for only three more years of life. I have no clue what I will do once Win 7 gives up the ghost; I'm hoping (more like praying) M$ will wake up before then and realize they need to resume supporting serious computer users, such as businesses, gamers, etc.

On the same note as what you are hoping for, someone has come up with a way to take the UI (including the Start Menu) from a copy of Win 7 (preferably legal) and add it to Win 8, giving some of the best of both worlds.

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Lighthouse
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People run much older versions of Windows perfectly well. Just cos support stops, means not a whit.

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GuiltySpark
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I understand both points of view but seeing as Win 7 was built on the Vista kernal I'm sure there could be a possibility as I think Win 7 updates will continue slightly longer than estimated just as XP's has.

Just thought it was an interesting theory :)

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raphoenix
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When OEMs cease to provide Windows 7 hardware device drivers for Windows 8 machines, buyers of new machines will be forced to run Windows 8. That was the way it was to get rid of 2K, XP and Vista and will be the way it goes for Windows 7.

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GuiltySpark
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Very true Rick, but unless the price for touch screen computers tumbles many people will just refuse and probably look towards Apple or Open Source, I don't think MS have enough of a hold over consumers to force the issue too soon.

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raphoenix
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Touch Screen will replace Flat screen just as Flat Screen replaced CRT.

Just a matter of when.

We are in transition phase now just as in the early 2000s.

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Lighthouse
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Seems I opened up a can of worms here :)

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warlock
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Not for me. I am keeping my Vista and W7 long as possible.

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LadyFitzgerald
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One can continue to use an OS past its end of support date but I can almost guarantee the bad guys will increase their efforts to find previously unfound security holes knowing that M$ won't be closing them. Same for the viruses. The only protection will to have absolutely no connection to the interwebz including sharing files with other computers, either over a network or using something like flash drives.

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raphoenix
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I'm really surprised by the number of folks who still run XP and Vista as Windows 7 was introduced more than 4 years ago to fix all the problems associated with the two older O/Ses.

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whs
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LF, If you send your flash drives files here for scanning, you can be pretty certain that it is clean - or not. Try it with a small file (so it goes fast). It is very interesting.

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GuiltySpark
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Well vista doesn't really have as many problems as people think, most are users of SP1 and before when it had a number of issues but SP2 is pretty stable.

XP is just an exploit within an exploit and always has been.

Win 7 had a lot of issues when it was released but is becoming more stable.

But with every new OS comes new problems anyway, so, 'swings and roundabouts'.

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warlock
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@Rick, The Vista box I have is old. Put in more memory, larger HD when it failed, DVD burner when it failed. But the Vista part always worked. Window7 have not done anything for as you said 3-4 years all works good. As to XP, I went from W98 to Vista and bypassed XP altogether. That OS is still the one that most computers at my work still use though. As problems arise with hardware the computers are switched out and W7 is used.

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SarahJames
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@ LH - ta, love your "Sarah is a Vista woman !" :)

I have Vista on my main machine, 7 on my second pc and 8 on my laptop (hate that laptop anyway <LOL>).
I can't bear to touch the laptop, will restore an image of Vista on it as soon as I actually need it.
W8 is terrible. Very nice for social media and the likes, but if you actually want to get some work done it's a disaster.
And excuse me but it just looks horrible - doesn't that bother anybody else????

W7 isn't a favorite of mine either. It's actually slower than my Vista (even though I have far more programs installed ánd running on Vista and the W7 pc has more ram) and Vista just looks a lot better. I think a lot of the complaints over Vista result from the fact that people upgraded XP machines to Vista and then got disappointed when their old stuffy machine couldn't handle the new OS. On a machine with the right specs Vista is a dream.

When it wouldn't be possible anymore to run Vista I think with a lot of tweaking W7 will eventually do, but W8 ...
I'll never go there. Curious to see what MS comes up with in the future or maybe some other OS will make a big leap after the MS-failure called W8.

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LadyFitzgerald
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@ SarahJames. "And excuse me but it just looks horrible - doesn't that bother anybody else????"

It bothers me. It looks like going from a beautifully illustrated book to a crudely drawn comic book. Reminds me of my old Commodore C64c. Some things in Win 7 were a bit over the top, such as Aero Glass (fortunately, it can be turned off), but Win 8 went too far simplifying graphics.

@ whs. Send flash drives where for scanning?

@ Rick. I'm not surprised. Many, if not most, people can't afford to replace computers any more than necessary and don't have the expertise (or money) to change Operating Systems on existing ones. I bought my present desktop shortly after Vista came out and made sure it was an XP machine since Vista had a horrible reputation then (it did improve with SP2 but I still didn't care for it) and all my peripherals and some of my programs (including an expensive one) wouldn't work on Vista. When Win 7 came out, I ran M$'s compatibility program on it and it would run only in a crippled state on the machine. So I stayed with XP to get as much bang from my buck on my machine.

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Santo
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I want to share my experience using Windows 8.

I use Windows XP, Windows 7, Windows 8 and Ubuntu(Dual Boot) computers for various purposes.

I clean installed Windows 8 in my 6 years old computer which had Vista. As long as it had Vista I had very tough time working with it. In spite trying all possible hardware and software upgrades/fixes, the system was very slow. But after I installed Windows 8, working with it has become like breeze. Immediate changes that found after the install was
1. Very fast boot.
2. Applications start much faster.
3. Searching anything is much faster.

The only modification I did was to install Classic Shell Start Menu, so I could have the Start Menu. To my surprise, Windows 8 installed all the required drivers even though Windows 8 upgrade adviser said I will have to install drivers after the install of the OS.

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whs
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Sorry, I forgot the virus scanner link: https://www.virustotal.com/

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LadyFitzgerald
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Thanks, whs. Makes sense now. It won't be an issue for me since I won't be using an OS past its end of support date (yeah, I'm a coward).

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raphoenix
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@LF,

Considering the cost of Building or Buying new hardware every Four years or more, changing an O/S for $140 dollars is not even relevant.

Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/.....6832116992

Microsoft Windows 8 Professional 64-bit (Full Version) - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/.....6832416552

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LadyFitzgerald
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@ Rick. There is no way I'll ever buy an OEM OS (unless it's on a new machine I buy). I have three retail copies of Win 7; two Ultimate and and one Home Premium (I don't know why I bought that last one). That way, I can reinstall the OS even if I replace the MOBO or the entire machine without any hassle from M$. I've had people tell me M$ has let them reinstall an OEM copy of Windoze on their machines after changing out the MOBO but I've also heard tales that people were not allowed to do so; I prefer not to worry about it. I generally don't replace hardware unless it breaks or no longer meets my needs. I plan on using Win7 to its last dying gasp (or close to it), same as I did with XP, or until hardware forces me to upgrade.

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raphoenix
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@LF,

You need to learn a bit more concerning installing Windows. :) :)

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LadyFitzgerald
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@ Rick? Ok, what do I need to know?

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raphoenix
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You need to know that you do not need Expensive Retail Edition of Windows. (lol) :) :)

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LadyFitzgerald
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Oh well, I have them now anyway.

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