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SarahJames
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I just downloaded the new version of WinBubble and noticed all the options for changing the default icons.
Well, I've already changed most myself (only use Winbubble for my screensaver actually, but I was curious to see if the new version had new features), but there was one missing that I still would like to change, but I don't know how to get to it.
It's the one for shared folders (mijn gedeelde mappen):

I've replaced just about everything with nice green glass folders and i would much prefer it if I could get it to look like this:

Now how do I go about this one?

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SarahJames
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Forget I asked - I already found it.
Just searched in the registry for 'mijn gedeelde mappen' and yep, it came up with a subkey called 'defaulticon'. How simple can life be;-)

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SarahJames
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The result:

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SarahJames
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Geek - you're fast as lightning!!!

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PalmTrees
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Hey sarah i've been thinking about doing that too. so i ran the same search but didn't come up with the default icon subkey...

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Scott
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Some more choices,
http://browse.deviantart.com/?.....ve%20icons

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SarahJames
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@ PalmTrees - does this help you, it's a notepad view of the default registrykey I exported (for safety;-D)

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{FC9FB64A-1EB2-4CCF-AF5E-1A497A9B5C2D}]
@="Mijn Gedeelde mappen"
"InfoTip"="Bevat bestanden die jij met je contactpersonen deelt en bestanden die je contactpersonen met jou delen."

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{FC9FB64A-1EB2-4CCF-AF5E-1A497A9B5C2D}\DefaultIcon]
@="C:\\Program Files\\Windows Live\\Messenger\\fsshext.8.5.1302.1018.dll,-205"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{FC9FB64A-1EB2-4CCF-AF5E-1A497A9B5C2D}\InprocServer32]
@="C:\\Program Files\\Windows Live\\Messenger\\fsshext.8.5.1302.1018.dll"
"ThreadingModel"="Apartment"
"LoadWithoutCOM"=""

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{FC9FB64A-1EB2-4CCF-AF5E-1A497A9B5C2D}\ShellFolder]
"Attributes"=dword:f0000000
"WantsFORPARSING"=""

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SarahJames
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I replaced this last bit with my own;-)

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{FC9FB64A-1EB2-4CCF-AF5E-1A497A9B5C2D}\DefaultIcon]
@="C:\\Program Files\\Windows Live\\Messenger\\fsshext.8.5.1302.1018.dll,-205"

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SarahJames
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@ Scott - there are some beautiful icons to be found.
Unfortunately my edited versions of the green folder are an infringement on microsoft copyright, so I may make them and use them myself, but I'm not allowed to share them by means of a download on the internet:(

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PalmTrees
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@ Sarah... thanks i did manage to find the right entry. but when i set it to the new path/file it just showed the windows default "new/emty folder icon". do i need to make a .dll file outof the .ico? if so how would i accomplish that?

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PalmTrees
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nvm it was just a bad file path. lol... i guess i should have used spellcheck ;)

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SarahJames
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@ PalmTrees - glad you found it:)
And if you want to make an iconlibrary you can use IconFx http://icofx.ro/ to make icons, edit icons in programs (be careful with that one - not all apps take kindly to it) or export to icl file. Rename the icl extension to dll and your done. (Or just use icl, that's what I do).

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PalmTrees
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@ Sarah - Thanks for all your help.
yeah i downloaded IconFx this morning before i went to sleep. i haven't figured out all of the features yet. but it helped in creating the live folder look, now all my folders are the green-glass of Vista, and still has the contents preview.

- how did you post those screen shots on here? I tried but i'm not sure what happened to the pic... it must have fallen through the void:)

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Lighthouse
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Everyone seems happy so....
.....As much as I love "triffling"...I do prefer "trifling"
(especially with port).
Sorry about that SarahJames :)

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SarahJames
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Thanks, Lighthouse, learned something again:)
I can't change it - can you do that?

@ PalmTrees - now you may enlighten me: how do you get the folders to be the green-glass of Vista with contents preview????? I'd love to have that too!

For screenshots I use PhotoBucket http://photobucket.com/
because they give the codes right underneath your image - sóóó easy:)

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Lighthouse
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I will ask my other brain as soon as it comes in from being walked by my dog :)

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SarahJames
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I'm not gonna ask what on earth you were talking about, Lighthouse ..... LOL

Any idea btw why my pics in the first post disappear? Happened twice already. I think when you posted something, Lighthouse, (change to my text on top?) and when the Geek added 'solved'.
The other pics weren't affected.

Being impatient as I am, I started looking for what PalmTrees will surely add later on:)
And I came across this, when you want to decide yourself what the preview inside the folder should look like (apart from the start way by means of properties> choose file that represents contents etc.)

"Copy an image in .JPG or .GIF format that user want to use as folder picture into the folder itself.
Rename the picture file name to Folder. For example, Picture1.jpg should be renamed to Folder.jpg and Picture1.gif should be renamed to Folder.gif.
Optionally, set the folder picture file (Folder.img) with hidden attribute to prevent it from displaying when listing folder’s contents.
To revert and restore the original Windows Vista automatic assigned folder pictures, just delete the Folder.img file.
Note that for alternative method, .BMP and .PNG image formats is not supported."

Works very well, so now I'm even more eager for PalmTrees' input;-D

Here's the link btw
http://www.mydigitallife.info/.....-explorer/

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Lighthouse
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That's odd. I didn't touch anything in the text box. Why editing the Title box should delete/alter the link I do not know. I will try it on one of my topics, to see what happens.
Actually, I did both those edits.

Edit, I have tried it on a test topic. And that behaved itself. Maybe The Geek can shed some light on this?

I think the "SarahJames Phenomenon", has spread from her computer, to her posts :)

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SarahJames
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Should have known you edited both posts - fast as lightning, that's Lighthouse allright.
And what are you blaming me for? This whole forum exists by the grace of computerproblems - what's different about mine???
(And don't worry, I can take it:D)

Btw - might it be because we were editing this post at the same time?

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Lighthouse
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Possibly. But unlikely, given that it happened twice.
Obviously I've done lots and lots of edits on the forum (with no problems). This, 'tho, is the first one I've done with a screenshot in it. Maybe the editing system works differently for that. I will ask The Geek later.
I wasn't blaming you. Just pulling your leg :)

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SarahJames
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The same happens when I edit one of my own posts with screenshots in it (I have to repaste the code), but I haven't seen it happen before when something else in the topic changed. This is the first.
(And it didn't happen to the other posts, just the one on top - only there appeared two little blocks, in the others the image was still there).

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Lighthouse
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Do you mind if I open up that post again, to look at the code? You may lose the pics again!

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SarahJames
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Fine by me:)

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Lighthouse
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That is definitely weird. The links are still there, but not initializing.
One for The Geek when he wakes up :)

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Lighthouse
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Do you see any changes in the links?

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SarahJames
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This is weird - top picture still there, but the second one is gone and the text above it has become a link to the first picture ...

Now when I click edit: ...
Are you still working on this? Because now the line under it has become a link to the second picture and no picture to be seen at all (block or real)

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SarahJames
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And now it is ok again! LOL

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Lighthouse
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I had to go into your PhotoBucket account and recopy the links.

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SarahJames
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I wonder when PalmTrees will wake up:)
I'm still very curious as to how he got the yellow folders replaced by the green glass ones wíth previeuw on it!

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PalmTrees
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@Lighthouse- lol...i was wondering what happed to those pics.
@Sarah- thanks for the info on the photobucket site. i'll attepmt to put pics in here:)
I hope this stuff shows up correctly. if it doesn't i have it all saved to a notepad and i can just send it to you that way.

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PalmTrees
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These are the icons/icon parts that you need:

if you already have them thats great, if not you can either create them your self or pick them up from here: http://browse.deviantart.com/?.....lder+icons
ok...the quickest and most complete way is just to use "IconPackager" (http://www.download.com/IconPa.....31210.html)

but this program is a "evaluation trial" so you either have to buy it or unistall - reinstall every 30 days (but thats kinda cheating the system).

now we come to the fun part:)...~note to self->curiosity has killed more computers then it has cats~ so now I always set a "system restore point" ;)

*NOTE*...This way did not affect all of the system folders(C:\windows). I'm still trying to find those;)

when you change the livefolder front, back, and data icons with IconPackager the actual icon entries in the imageres.dll file are changed. so after you apply those changes through IconPackager find your imageres.dll file, right click, select copy-to-folder, send it anywhere outside of the C:\Windows folder (!!just not to the desktop!!). I don't know why but it didn't work from there. now reset those icons to the windows default.

Registry entries...
use IconPakager to locate the file path to your open and closed folder icons.

open the registry editor (Sortcut= Win+r -> regedit)
run a search for the for the file path you got from IconPackager(i.e C:\Windows\system32\imageres.dll,3). Replace this data with your new icon location (i.e. C:\WinBubble 1.73\icons\live folder.ico). Use the F3 key to find the next entry to replace. I only had three entries. the last two were in the same key (HKEY_CURRENT_USER->Software->Microsoft->Windows->currentVersion->explorer->Shell Icons. Here you need to make the following entries yourself:

now close all of your open programs.

The next step cost me a couple of system restores:)....oops...i did it again <shruggs and reloads>:P

now we need to restart the computer and load into "safe mode". i just did a power-kill (holding the power button down til it shut off) to force the "safe mode" option screen to come up. when you get into safe mode windows locate the imageres.dll file that you saved earlier and COPY it back into the system32 folder. now you will get the pop up screen asking what you want to do with the file (because it is a duplicate file name) select "copy and keep both files". locate both files in the folder and set them side by side. you should have: imageres.dll and imageres(2).dll. change the original to imageresgoodcopy.dll(or anything similar because we will leave it here incase something goes wrong or at some future point in time you want the originals back). and the other file from: imageres(2).dll to: imageres.dll

Now restart back into normal vista.

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PalmTrees
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yep i knew i did those pictures wrong. Sorry

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PalmTrees
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@Lighthouse- If you can see were i went wrong with those photo links please set me in the right direction.
~Thanks~

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Lighthouse
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There were no links?
I take it your using PhotoBucket?

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PalmTrees
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yes i was. i used the IMG code. should i edit the post using HTML or the direct link.

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Lighthouse
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The IMG code is the one to use. When you click on it, it is copied. Paste that into your edit box. Try again, and I will have a look. (ps try leaving 3 blank lines above and below the paste).

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PalmTrees
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Thanks Lighthouse, I guess next time i wont put those backticks around the code.

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Lighthouse
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Bravo :)

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PalmTrees
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Lighthouse
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And SarahJames. Thankyou for letting me use your post to experiment with. Hopefully, now, this problem will not happen again :)

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SarahJames
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@ Lighthouse - always happy to help:)

@ PalmTrees - I don't use Iconpackager, so I just changed the imageres.dll and replaced it.
Didn't need to go into safemode for that, but did a restart just to be sure everything changed ok.
Now a lot of folder do have the green glass look! Great!

But weird enough not all. I don't understand why.
In Program Files non of the icons changed, but that's ok with me.
In Windows, some of the icons changed, but not all.
Some with contents, some without - so the principle works fine:

Now how do I get all to appear as wanted???
Is there another dll that also handles front and back view of folders?

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Lighthouse
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SarahJames. You might want to start looking at programs like Icon Extract and Resource Hacker, to find more info.

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SarahJames
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It has to do with a refresh I guess, because any new folder I make does it allright.
So I deleted the iconcache file and I'll see what happens on the next restart, but for now I've got to run. Been playing around for way too long!
(but it is fun fun fun!)

And PalmTrees: thanks for all this fun!

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SarahJames
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The refresh helped some, but not all. So I ran Disk Cleanup to remove thumbnails and that did the trick.
(Only leaves me to remove those pesky PI fonts again on the next restart ... LOL)

Wow - this looks so great!!!
OK, now it is for certain - Vista has won over my heart. I am CONTENT!

Silly thing is, I did this the PalmTrees-trick all the time on my old Win98. I had the most beautiful Win98 ever to be found, because just about every icon had been changed (and I cleaned it up to perfection;-D). Using Reshack and an iconeditor I modified most systemfiles. I just never thought of doing that in Vista, because of all it's safety measures etc.
Didn't want to upset Lighthouse and others, that start telling me again to leave well alone when it works allright ... LOL

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Lighthouse
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LOL. would I say that? :)

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SarahJames
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Final view - even in Program Files it works perfectly!

Jolly!

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Lighthouse
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I can't mark you "Solved" twice :) (well I could. but you know what happens) :)

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PalmTrees
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@SarahJames
what program did you use to change the imageres.dll file? I look all over the net for one (freeware) but everyone that i tried had to be bought to use the tools i needed. BTW thanks for the disc cleanup tip, works great now:)

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SarahJames
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IcoFx - here is a tutorial to how: http://icofx.ro/tutorials/tutorial5.html
I just copied imageres.dll to my documents, opened IcoFX, clicked resource editor

Opened imageres.dll

Righclicked on the icon I wanted to change:

That results in this:

Click close (there is no save ...):

Because that follows next:

And then it says:

Repeat till you're done:)

(And why did I post a link to a tutorial .... LOL)

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SarahJames
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Where did you find a nice icon for a folder with subfolders? Because I made my own. (See screenshot above of Program Files). Let's see if I can post png files here - if you haven't got one you can use mine, just rightclick and save:)

Edit: Replaced with improved version:)

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SarahJames
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Yep, png works:)

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SarahJames
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And one more thing. About replacing imageres.dll: first rename the old one to imageres old.dll or someting and then paste the new version in your system32 folder (that's where mine is anyway) and you don't need a restart or anything. If you want to use copy over the original file Vista starts screaming about not having the rights to do so etc.

I did use takeown on imageres.dll before starting all this -
https://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/add-take-ownership-to-explorer-right-click-menu-in-vista/

Cheers,
Sarah.

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PalmTrees
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Well...this is very depressing...lol not realy;)
i've had IcoFx for a while but i didn't know you could change out the icons like that. I spent hours and hours looking for what i already had...:P
Here is the icon the i'm useing for the folder with subfolders. its .png also

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Cleaner007
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Does anybody know about the program called Clone Remover? I've heard it' the best utility for duplicate file remval. How d'you think?

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SarahJames
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Hi Cleaner007. Do you mean in relation to what we were discussing here?
After a restart you can remove the renamed old imageres.dll without any trouble.

If you mean in general I think it is wise to start a new topic for it, so you'll get more response.
I myself am not very fond of duplicate file removers. The registry often has entries to the same file on different places and if you remove the duplicates you can get pretty weird results.

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Cleaner007
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Thanks:)

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nerdnan
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thanks heaps sarah james for these icon ideas,i too love to tinker with appearance of things,plain to me is boring...

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SarahJames
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Thanks, Nerdnan:)

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nerdnan
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hi sarah james,after reading your post,i couldn`t help myself,i downloaded iconfx & what a brilliant program,i have made icons of my children from image files,they look fantastic,a lot less boring,even did one of my dog,my desktop is family orientated,thank you so much,much appreciated ......

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