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jayh619
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heres my item Number list from www.newegg.com can someone please look over it all and tell help tell me if this would all work well and could someone please help me get an item number for a good cheap power supply for the case and everything. Also I can't tell whether or not I should get the case WITH the power Supply or... a case without powersupply so I could just buy my own 600Watt PS insted of the 500w

heres the two cases I'm looking at

+++Item #: N82E16811156188 AND ++++++ item #: N82E16811156099+++++++++++++++

Here's the list of supplies I'm going to try buying but could someone check it ll out and tell me if I should buy all this? I'm trying to get a good computer nd have good cooling with everything and save money so I'm not buying it from the stores and I'm going to build it on my own with the help of my computer teacher

HP 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe Black IDE Model dvd1040i - Retail
Item #: N82E16827140025

RAIDMAX SMILODON ATX-612WB Black SECC STEEL ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
Item #: N82E16811156063

RAIDMAX AZTEC ATX-619WY Black/ Yellow SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
Item #: N82E16811156188

Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD2500AAKS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
Item #: N82E16822136161

ASUS M2N-E AM2 NVIDIA nForce 570 Ultra MCP ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
Item #: N82E16813131022

ECS N9600GT-512MX EDM GeForce 9600GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail
Item #: N82E16814134038

ATRIX PSCI-500BLK 500W ATX12V Power Supply
Item #: N82E16817192002

A-DATA 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model ADQVE1B16K
Item #: N82E16820211188

AMD Athlon 64 X2 6400+ Windsor 3.2GHz Socket AM2 125W Dual-Core Processor Model ADX6400CZBOX
Item #: N82E16819103228

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jack7h3r1pp3r
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well for the psu it really depends on how much power you need to put out. but i think that 500+ is a good idea though. and when i am looking for parts for my pc i usually go by what others say in the reviews because they are the ones who have actually tried it out. but every thing looks good from here.

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jack7h3r1pp3r
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and also for the power supply how much are you looking to spend on it?

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jack7h3r1pp3r
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also if you plan on overclocking at all i would go with something with a bit higher wattage than 500w and the psu that you listed doesn't seem to be a very good one; just has lights on it. if you are looking to light up your case you could look into an ultra psu i have one and i has worked perfecly since i first got it.

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jayh619
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well I'm trying to keep it all as low as possible and.. I dont really know what Overclocking means... so could u tell me.. I've been wondering for the longest time and all I'm really trying to do it get a good computer for playing new games and for doing some 3-d stuff on my spare time. And I'm just trying to figure out the cheapest PSU that I could get that would be reliable ccuz... well I've had my computer for TEN YEARS and it's never blown out like in some of the reveiws I've read... but then again.. I've never tried playing any high end games on it.... so I'm not sure.. I want to pay just enough so that it'd last a few years like 5 years or so

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jayh619
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I don't think the power supply that comes with the case is great cause USUALLY for most cases people would say that the stock PSU's are horrible so I'm not sure. But, the price difference from the cases with the PSU's and the price of the cses without it is about 20 dollars. And would you suggest that I should get new fans to replace the stock ones??? and THANK YOU again for your input on this.

I'm not experienced with computers and once I've completed this list I'm going to ask for my computer repair teacher's advice on this too but I think he doesn't have any problems with stock PSU's.

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jonhill987
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Best bang for buck at the moment is a 512MB 8800GT and an Intel Q6600 CPU, AMD are well behind at the moment.

I would also recommend you avoid ASUS, since they moved their factories to China people (including me) have had no end of problems with faulty boards.

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jayh619
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so could u help me suggest mother board then? and tell me what item numbers I should look at?

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jonhill987
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It would help if you suggested a budget for all this. Motherboards with an Intel P35 chipset seem to get good recommendations, the Intel X38 chipset (or even 48 if you have the money, but it only takes the highly expensive DDR3 RAM) should be more future proof but more expensive.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L.....2_Chipsets

As for manufacturer Gigabyte or MSI are supposed to be good, but I don't have experience with either.

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jayh619
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welll I want to keep everything under 1000 preferably under 800 dollars

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jack7h3r1pp3r
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as for mother boards i would say that it really depends on what you are going to be putting in it; but i think in your case you should be fine with anything newer.

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jack7h3r1pp3r
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ok here is another question for you what (kinda of) games are you planning on playing? will it be like wow or like crysis?

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jayh619
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I'm planning on playing games like crysis or well "warhammer: mark of chaos'

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jack7h3r1pp3r
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well if it's crysis you will need a very good video card graphics are insane.

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jayh619
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couldn't I reduce the graphics on it?

also... then... could u help me find a good graphics card that's under 200?

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jonhill987
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The 512MB 8800GT should run Crysis well if coupled with a decent processor, They retail for about £150 in the UK so I guess that would be under 200 USD.

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jayh619
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so do u think the Item #: N82E16819103228 "AMD Athlon 64 X2 6400+ Windsor 3.2GHz Socket AM2 125W Dual-Core Processor" and either this ++Item #: N82E16814500007+++item # N82E16814134038+++ from new egg? would work

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jonhill987
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Like I said previously, I wouldn't go down the AMD route. The Performance of Intel CPUs is much better for any given clock speed than AMD at the moment. Is there any reason why you want an AMD particularly?

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jayh619
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well because some friends of mine said that it'd be cheaper on that way and also cuz its 3.2GHz at a low price and please excuse my lck of knowledge in computers and gaming. I just want to replace my 10 year old computer with a new gaming one and play the new released games, practice doing graphics and to major in graphic designs

So... well.. could u if... by any chance help me make up a list of components on newegg for me? That go well with Intel and is... under 1000 (hopefully under 800)? lol and I'm, just trying to build a new good gaming computer and... I don't know anything about SLI or overclocking so ya... could you?

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jack7h3r1pp3r
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well sli is just when you connect two graphics cards together and they combine there power into one. and overclocking is when you make you cpu run faster than it normally would but is not recomended if you are a beginner because you can fry you cpu if you do not have enough cooling power or just push it too far.

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jonhill987
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Most people I know have said that SLI is a waste of time and money because very few game support it properly, you are better off saving the money you would spend on the second card and replacing the first card with it at a later date.

As for AMD Vs Intel. Yes, the chip you have chosen runs at 3.2GHz but clock for clock the Intel chips are better, the price difference is worth it (look up some benchmarks if you don't believe me). Most people building gaming PC's at the moment seem to be getting an Intel Q6600 (Make sure it is the G0 stepping when you buy it, it will run much cooler) and a 512MB NVidia 8800GT.

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jayh619
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well could you both look it up and show me the Item Numbers of the processors you think is the best that's under $200? and same thing with the Video card? please? =) I'm sorry if I'm annoying you both. I was originally planning on buying the $650 visionman computer from the internet but then my friends told me that I'm MUCH better off building my own with the their help but they don't want to help me look for the parts so.. could you both give item numbers and I'll edit my wish list accordingly? I think I can spend about 800 to 1000 on this. and I already have a monitor, keyboard and etc. so ya.

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jack7h3r1pp3r
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video cards:

here is a nice one: N82E16814134040

and this one seems to be a beast for the money: N82E16814130082

procs:

this one seems to be good: N82E16819115037

here is a link to the search page: http://www.newegg.com/Product/.....0+-+%24200

and also we don't get annoyed by you asking too many questions that is why we are here to help people like you.

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The Geek
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I'm planning on buying a new computer as well... figure I'll build one from newegg too.

I think this processor is the best for the money at the moment:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/.....6819115017

Have to make sure that the motherboard supports the quad cores, of course.

And you aren't annoying us, it's great to have these threads that go back and forth... much better than the people that never reply!

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Budohorseman
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One thing to keep in mind is that if you think you may one day opt for a dual graphic card set-up, keep in mind that the chipsets have to match the graphic card. SLI is for nVidia cards and CrossFire is for ATI cards--they are not interchangeable. Of course if you stick with the motherboard you have listed in your initial post this is a non-issue as it only have one 16x ePCI slot.

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jack7h3r1pp3r
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ya i would agree with the geek on the proc. that it is really nice for the price. quad core it up!!

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jayh619
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Thank you =D and... could some one explain what Cross Fire is...? lol I NOW know what Overcloaking means, and I'm going to be too afraid to ever use it, and I KINDA no what SLI means.... so... what does crossfire do?

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The Geek
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CrossFire is ATI's method for using dual video cards together, similar to SLI for nvidia cards. I wouldn't recommend using either one... the 512MB NVidia 8800GT is probably all you'd need in a video card.

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jack7h3r1pp3r
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@the geek why don't you recommend using sli or crossfire?

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Budohorseman
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based on his initial system specs, he would not get much of a boost. for the most part, unless your chipset supports 2 cards at 16x and your system is majorly pimped, you will not get a major advantage.

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jack7h3r1pp3r
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ok i see now. seriously pimped thats kinda funny

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Budohorseman
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lol, you need to have a system that can handle some major overclocking to get better than about a 30 fps boost with most configurations, not that I overclock or anything......

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jack7h3r1pp3r
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i wish i could but mine already runs hot as it is now you can read all about it here: https://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/how-to-keep-a-processer-cool?replies=24

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Budohorseman
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Hehe, I built my system for overclocking, I've got a Thermalright Ultra Extreme 120 with a Scythe 120mm fan on it with an E8500 processor (Wolfdale core 45nm) so I can push this <Edit> system </edit>!

EDIT: I did lap my heatsink. Almost never cracks 50 C (and I do run Boinic with 3 protocols).

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jack7h3r1pp3r
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once i get a bit more money i'm going to try and upgrade my pc more so i can do more with it.

edit: or majorly pimped out as you put it :)

mine runs idle at about 50 c

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Budohorseman
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I love to oc systems, if ya ever want help, just email me @ gmail!!!

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jack7h3r1pp3r
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ya i know how but i just can't with what i have at the moment. had to help out my friend though he has a sweet pc. i wish i had his.

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Budohorseman
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I hear ya, built mine back in February, it's a pretty sweet rig! (IMHO)

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jayh619
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So... I shouldn't attempt to TRY OC'ing this once I build it? and could u just reply how to OC cuz I'm HUGE noob and it sounds like OC'ing would make the performance a LOT better

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jack7h3r1pp3r
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before you even want to think about oc'ing you will want to make sure that you have very good cooling. because what it will run at now at full load will be the idle if you don't cool it right.

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Budohorseman
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Two things with OCing, you need very good cooling solutions and a good power supply. For cooling you will need an aftermarket heatsink and fan for your cpu (not the ones that come with it) along with some thermal paste (like Arctic Silver). A good power supply is one thing a lot of newbie OCers do not think about. Read the reviews on power supplies in the wattage you are looking for and pick one that delivers stable power across all the rails. Check out this list of cooling solutions and power supply reviews. http://www.anandtech.com/casecoolingpsus/

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jack7h3r1pp3r
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water cooling would be a good idea but i heard that they aren't the most stable cooling devices.

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jayh619
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You don't have to refill the water for water cooling right? cuz thats wat my friend said

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jack7h3r1pp3r
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no its not even real water it's some other liquid not sure what but i know for sure it's not water though.

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ScottW
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Water cooling is sooo last millenium. Oil is the way to go these days. No pumps, no fans, no noise, no risk of a short circuit.
http://www.tomshardware.com/re.....,1203.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZ8L1Prl6tk

Now you're cooking with oil! :-P

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jack7h3r1pp3r
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scott that is sweet but i don't really want to try it. ;)

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Budohorseman
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If you're gonna do that, you may as well go with a TEC cooling system, and throw in a dehumidifier!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T.....ic_cooling

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ScottW
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Budo, great article. The first reference is the one I posted above and the second is to oilcooledcomputer.com. The Peltier effect is very interesting, but I have yet to see a PC cooled by pelts. Also, from what little I understand, the heat from a pelt must be drawn off somehow either with air or liquid cooling. The beauty of the oil cooling solution is it's cheap and free of noisy fans or pumps. The downside would be having to drain all that oil to change parts and the slippery, sticky mess it must leave behind. Yuck!

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Budohorseman
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Scott, I remember reading that article when it first came out, I always wondered if after the system was running for 30 min or so if you could cook yourself some fries (chips for those of you across the pond) in it.

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Lighthouse
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frites

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jayh619
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I think u could but I'd think that the fries would be mixed with other chemicals from the computer.. I THINK lol well I dunno anywho... now I'm EXTREMELY interested with this.. I've been reading TONS of forums for this.... and I can't figure what the life expectency for a computer thats been submerged would last for... Do u think that it might decrese the computer's life span? or.. increase it?

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Lighthouse
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I watched the video (from a link above) and I noticed the oil was not moving.
Is it just my bad eyesight?

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jack7h3r1pp3r
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ya it doesn't seem to have that great of flow in it so you would need to have something to get it moving around. maybe a fan of some sort. i don't know.

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ScottW
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First, I don't think the oil is hot enough for frying. On page 11 at tomshardware.com it says they were at 40°C (104°F) and that's just not hot enough for deep fat frying.

As for the oil moving, it doesn't need to. The oil is a poor electrical conductor, but an excellent heat conductor. The heat from the hottest components will raise the temperature of all the oil, eventually. Still, adding a pump to make the oil circulate would probably help draw the heat away from the hottest components faster.

Finally, on the life expectancy of such a system I have no idea. The hot oil might start corrosion or dissolving some parts of the system. Or, maybe it would remain chemically inert and increase the life of the submerged components. Someone would have to run on oil cooling for several months then drain it and check the board for chemical reactions. Only time will tell.

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jayh619
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well... do u no anyone with a old 40 dollar computer? lol I want to have some one test it out I cant find anyone whose experiments it like that in any forums but maybe it's cuz I'm googling the forums wrong...

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