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(Solved) - Suddenly Turned off With a Black Screen

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  • Started 4 years ago by JamesTKirk
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JamesTKirk
Posts: 143

Hello fellow computer junkies,

I was running a program. It appeared as if there was an error and a "bug menu" appeared. There was a dialog box of details, which I didn't read. The options were the boxes of "ok", "cancel", "debug", and one other option. I clicked "debug". It looked like it didn't do anything or resolved really quickly so I clicked it again. I clicked it one more time. And suddenly the computer shut off within 1 second, not a long shut down where all programs shut down slowly and windows logs off.

Now the computer won't turn on at all when I press the power button. It has never done this before. I waited several minutes and pressed the power button again. The computer won't turn on, nor is there "any" lights that are on on the computer -- even when the power cord is plugged into it...

Captain Kirk
USS Enterprise

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JamesTKirk
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Straspey
Posts: 556

There are a few "duh" troubleshooting steps you can take in a case like this - if you have not already done so.

From the way you describe the problem, it sounds as if either your power supply has failed - which is not a big deal because you can always swap it out for a new one.

Or -

One of the wires/connections to the power supply has become loose somehow - which can occasionally happen over time, and perhaps the inside of your computer has become clogged with dirt and dust, which can accumulate over time and clog up an important connection.

Or -

The worst case scenario -- Your computer has fried itself and bit the dust.

I would suggest you ask raphoenix - who is one of the regulars and an expert when it comes to hardware issues. Perhaps he can guide you.

And -

In any event, regardless of what the issue is, you will be asked if you have made a full backup of your data, because you may need it to effect a recovery.

Hope this is of some help, and good luck.

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JamesTKirk
Posts: 143

Straspey,
Thanks for the reply. I too, also suspected that dust may have been an issue.
Here's what you said:
"raphoenix...is one of the regulars"
So does this mean he is here on How to Geek? How do I talk to him, do I private message him? I am relatively new to this site (I only have 24 posts), so I don't really know how to navigate it.

But as far as the computer, here's what I did since I last talked to you:

--I took out the rechargeable battery
--I unplugged the power cord
--I pressed the power button for 10 seconds and then waited for 30 seconds
--I put the rechargeable battery back in

After doing this, I was able to start the computer!!! At this point, I thought that the problem was solved...
But then, my computer started acting differently, unlike how it had ran before. I know, I know, at least it runs right? Yea, but the cybertech in me wants to find out why this is happening -- and besides, how my computer is acting, is frankly annoying. So this is what my computer does now after this "Black Out":
The computer is able to boot into the OS like normal. But it takes turning it off and turning it back on 3-5 times to get the OS to fully load up. It seems to get stuck on the blue "welcome" screen in the Windows OS in the start up, and remains there for a long time and doesn't appear to be making any progress like how it normally does when its going to load up. But I can "tell" that the OS is going to load up because I am missing my CMOS battery, and if I wasn't, I wouldn't be able to "tell" whether or not that it was going to load up this time. What is does, how I can "tell", is because I get the error message of your date and time is not correct box that pops up.

Straspey, do you know what is wrong with the computer or why it is doing that?

Captain Kirk
USS Enterprise

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G41M
Posts: 902

Can you give us the laptop model? Maybe you need to replace the cmos battery.

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JamesTKirk
Posts: 143

Hello G41M,
Thanks for the reply. How's ya?

Manufacturer: Compaq Evo
Notebook Model: N610c
Processor Type: Mobile Intel Pentium 4-M CPU 2

I just found out that I am missing the CMOS battery. So to emulate resetting the CMOS, I took out the rechargeable battery, unplugged the power cord, pressed the power button for 10 seconds, waited for one minute, and then replaced the rechargeable battery. This, in effect, was equivolent to resetting the CMOS.

Captain Kirk
USS Enterprise

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G41M
Posts: 902

"I took out the rechargeable battery
unplugged the power cord"
= and you get incorrect date and time. You need to replace cmos battery. This powers the cmos so that the laptop maintains the date and time, bios configurations even when there no power coming either from the rechargeable battery or the adapter. Your laptop manual says it is located under the memory expansion slot compartment cover. After replacing the battery, enter bios and change the date and time. This is one possible cause of the problem you are encountering now.

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JamesTKirk
Posts: 143

Hello G41M,

The CMOS stores the Bios information. Without the CMOS, OR, by replacing and putting it back, which is one of the computer dianostic steps in some instances, resets the Bios to the default setting. The "purpose" of the CMOS is to save any NEW changes that you make to the Bios. It doesn't do anything else. A missing CMOS battery will not have an effect on installing an OS.

But the CMOS can make you miss appointments and errands that you have to do because you don't know what time it is, or, even what day that it is!

Captain Kirk
USS Enterprise

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warlock
Posts: 4100

Using warp drive while passing a clasS M planet may cause a problem. Most probable would be a time warp which can be fixed with a $3.00 cmos BATTERY.

lIVE LONG AND PROSPER

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Lighthouse
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Having the wrong date on the computer can affect many things.

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PreetamD
Posts: 29

@JamesTKirk

Do you have any antivirus software in your PC ?? This problem could also be caused due to some stupid malware... You could do a full system scan using AVAST and MALWAREBYTES... No harm in that. You could try that out... Also, the date and time could be "THE" issue.

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JamesTKirk
Posts: 143

Hi G41M,
Sometimes things work in mysterious ways, including computers. You might be right.
I didn't mean to appear negative. I intended the last statement as a joke, and by no means was it supposed to be interpreted as sarcasm instead.

Hello warlock,
It doesn't hurt to try. I have engaged the warp drive to hyperspeed, faster than warp 9 speed, but the reactor core seems to be overloading. There is a problem with the core. This is the Captain to the bridge, disengage the warp drive. Put all systems to auxilary power. Kirk out.

Stardate 3120, we have neared a M class planet, and our core has suddenly malfuncioned. All systems have been taken offline at this time.

Spock, you there?

Hey Lighthouse,

"Having the wrong date on the computer can affect many things."

It's possible, but only the Bios, date & time, and security programs as far as I know

Howdy PreetamD,
Yes, that is a good idea, think I'll run it through with a security program. Couldn't hurt.
And yes, you never know, it could be the issue, though I doubt it.

EVERYONE,
Here is the situation:
--The computer has been missing its CMOS for a long time
--The computer has NEVER had these kind of problems until just RECENTLY
--I have never seen a computer be "unable" to run an OS without a CMOS
--I have never seen a computer be "unable" to boot without a CMOS

*chew on this for a minute and see if it gives you any ideas

Captain Kirk
USS Enterprise

LIVE LONG AND PROSPER

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G41M
Posts: 902

Captain Kirk, Diagnosing computer problems, be it hardware or software sometimes gets complicated when two or several issues compliment each other. Incorrect date and time might not be the main cause but would help a lot in diagnosing the problem if it is corrected. If you do not have the time to replace the RTC battery, power on your laptop, go to bios setup and enter the correct date and time, save the settings and restart and tell us what happens.

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PreetamD
Posts: 29

Last post 3 days ago !! Why no feedback till now ??

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JamesTKirk
Posts: 143

Welcome Back G41M,
I would enter the date and time in the Bios, save the settings, and restart, but I am currently in the middle on a much greater crisis right now, so this is going to have to wait until I fix my computer from the black screen and the error message that's on it right now to do that. However, once the computer is running again, I will still have the same situation again that I mentioned to you. I was trying to start the diagnosising process.

PreetamD,
Thanks for the comments. Interesting point. Thought there was no one left on the post and I was ready to close it or leave it as a dead end.

Captain Kirk
USS Enterprise

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PreetamD
Posts: 29

Captain Kirk,

Can you please tell what's the error message ??

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JamesTKirk
Posts: 143

PreetamD,
"A Disk Read Error Has Occurred"

My computer has been down for two weeks now. Have not been able to fix it yet.
Ran into problems with no floppy drive, CD drive possibly disabled, and a Bios that doesn't support USB boot

I just formatted it 4 times and then used a Killdisk. At the moment, I have to format it again, and then partition it. And start from square one one again.
I failed the last Linux Puppy install on another second computer

--I only have XP
--I don't have a desktop
--I have 2 laptops
--I have a external hd case with a USB cord
--I have a USB flashdrive with XP on it
--My 2 laptops have a Bios that does not support USB boot

Captain Kirk
USS Enterprise

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PreetamD
Posts: 29

Does this tell you to press ctrl+alt+delete to restart ??

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PreetamD
Posts: 29

Captain Kirk,

If that's the case... this link may throw some light on it... Although I have a gut feeling that you may have to call a technician or take your computer to the store. Worst scenario, you may have to change your HDD...

All the best..

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JamesTKirk
Posts: 143

PreetamD,

I sincerly thank you for the link.
This looks like a good forum.
Haven't found the solution yet, but I'm still reading through them.
There are lots of posts!!

"Does this tell you to press ctrl+alt+delete to restart ??"
That is the exact message.

Captain Kirk
USS Enterprise

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JamesTKirk
Posts: 143

Dear warehouse,
Your last post was kind of confusing. The link was to cotton filters and cotton cleaners/scrubbers.
Were you hinting that maybe I might have a dust build up in the computer. Is this what you were referring to?

Your link is simply baffling. You must further explain what you meant. Your response was very puzzling.

What did you mean by, "reshipment system"?

I don't understand

Captain Kirk
USS Enterprise

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bubbatie1
Posts: 1322

he's a spammer hopefully a mod will ban him shortly has no rellavance to any topic here on htg

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JamesTKirk
Posts: 143

bubbatie1,
Thanks for telling me. I thought that there were things about computers that I didn't know yet, though it did sound a bit odd.

I never seen a spammer on a forum before, but now I know not to reply to him.

How do you contact a moderator. Is there private messaging on htg? Kind of new to htg, so I don't really know how to navigate...

Captain Kirk

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bubbatie1
Posts: 1322

just hit report button ..........the mods are awesome in figuring out why a thread is reported.

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vistamike
Posts: 10945

Warehouse and all 11 posts now gone

Mike

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bubbatie1
Posts: 1322

Thanks . kinda wierd spammer he was promoting farm supplies & such

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JamesTKirk
Posts: 143

Thanks Mike,

Looks like he had a whole "warehouse" full of supplies he was trying to off. His name was "warehouse"?

Thanks for looking out for us vistamike

bubbatie1,
I appreciate you telling me how to contact a moderator.

"farm supplies"???? Are you kidding me? Is that what they were?

What kind of stupid person would think that they would be able to sell "farm supplies" on a computer forum!!!!!!!!!!!!!?

Captain Kirk

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Lighthouse
Posts: 13598

Who knows. Even computer users might have a cow in their back yard. In fact I know some that do. And maybe it's pigs, and bullocks too.

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JamesTKirk
Posts: 143

And old Mcdonald had a farm, ei- ei -O

And on his farm, there was a cow that went ,"mooooo"

There was a "Quack quack" there

And a "Baaahaaa" here

And old Mcdonald had a farm, ei- ei -O

A cow went "mooooo"

A duck went "quack"

A sheep went "baahaaa"

And a computer went "b-b-bli-blib beep"

ei- ei -O

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Xhi
Posts: 6298

So I guess this one has been solved judging by the banter.

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Lighthouse
Posts: 13598

Maybe not, Just spammer talk.Will have to wait for the next star date update from Jim.

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JamesTKirk
Posts: 143

Hello Everybody!

Okay, so there's people still riding this starship huh? Okay, here goes nothing -- let's try this, and see if it does anything.

So as you know these are the symptom's:

In the past-- At first, my computer suddenly shut off. I tried to reboot it many times, but it would not start. I pressed the power button again. Nothing. The power was not on and all there is is a black screen. I took out the rechargeable battery, waited for 1 minute, and replaced it. Now I could restart it, and it turned on. But that is not all. Now it took 3-5 boots to be able to fully load into windows. On boots where it did not fully load, it would hang on the blue windows "welcome" splash screen.

In the future-- This is the current time.
And now, when I turn the computer off, the computer will automatically TURN BACK ON by itself after about two seconds like the thing is alive!! And without pressing the power button.

This is definitely a hardware question.

Captain Kirk

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Lighthouse
Posts: 13598

Please can you stick to one thread.

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JamesTKirk
Posts: 143

Lighthouse,
What do you mean? You mean if I want to chat with you and shoot the breeze, or are you referring to trying to solve this issue with the black screen.

Please tell me what your referring to. I don't understand. Can you be more specific?

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Lighthouse
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JamesTKirk
Posts: 143

yes, but as you can see, he hasn't responded to me for the last 3 posts and several inbetween the ones before that.
So Unless he responds back, the link is dead.
There has been no response from his for 3 days.

But you talked to me yesterday/today.
I thought maybe you might know.

But then I realized that moderators don't respond/answer questions, they just "watch"
I didn't realize. Sorry for trying to ask a "moderator" a question.

I didn't know that I was asking a moderator a computer question.
And, at the time that I wrote it, I hadn't figured out yet that moderators don't answer computer questions.

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vistamike
Posts: 10945

Captain

{{But then I realized that moderators don't respond/answer questions, they just "watch"
I didn't realize. Sorry for trying to ask a "moderator" a question.}}

{{And, at the time that I wrote it, I hadn't figured out yet that moderators don't answer computer questions.}}

Moderators don't just watch they have input too (look at the posts of Mods). Our members, who make up this forum reply within their specialised subject areas just as Mods do.

However there are times when we can't always transport to a class 'M' planet due to problems with the dilithium crystal structure. Scotty needs a kip too.

Anyway the Prime Directive is; Try to keep to a particular thread, help is more available in this way:
1. 3 for 1 is just not an option
2. If you encounter another problem, start a new topic
3. If 1 = 0 then goto 4
4. RTFM

Admiral of the Fleet, Stardate 09/07/2012

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JamesTKirk
Posts: 143

Thanks mike,
Much appreciated

Link Dead. No replies.
Unresolved Issue Still present

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JamesTKirk
Posts: 143

Captain, Captain, we are detecting a large number of ships in the next sector. What do you want me to do? "Stay on course." But, Captain, that will bring up right into the center of that mass of ships!!! "Proceed with our set destination Lieutenant -- we will not falter" We then appeared out of the warp gate and sailed toward an entire armada of alien ships of another race. I did not have a plan. I was just going to figure it out as I went.

Stardate 3124,
Today we found an entire armada of ships from an entire race. We did not know what their purpose was, but I meant to find out. As ambassador of the Human race, I met with the leader of the alien race, and talks commenced. A peace treaty between our two people was arranged, and we began plans for trade. But we are still low on dylithium crystals. The aliens didn't have any, or know where to get any either. I fear that our ship will crash soon due to a lack of power if we do not find more of this energy source.

POSSIBLE ISSUE: Lots of Dust

SOLUTION: None
Problem Not Solved

Captain Kirk

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warlock
Posts: 4100

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html.....3374683323 You can get some much needed dylithium crystals here. Still won't solve your original problem though.

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