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Making a bootable CD containing DriveImage XML data to restore primary drive

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dreamcatcherco
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Gosh, I wish I'd have seen a discussion/question on this forum from 2-3 months ago when SaraJames was looking for a utility to make a mirror image copy. I, too, had finally gotten my C drive the way I wanted it because I had done a lot of tweaking, disabling, adding, modifying, freeware downloading, etc. that changed the drive signifcantly over factory condition (I thought by far and away for the better. Way, Way better.) I started with a C drive that was freezing a lot and very very slow. So slow on the internet using Internet Explorer it just wouldn't go anymore & the only thing I could do was shut it down (frequently) and start over. I changed the browser to Firefox and optimized that so that the difference was like night & day. Also just lots of details like getting rid of the pesky user control "do you want to continue" screen while still leaving user control on. I didn't want to lose all that so I search & searched for a freeware utility to make a mirror image of the drive without the benefit of the info. discussed on this forum. I finally found DriveImage XML and made a copy of my boot drive using it. The program said I had created it successfully & I stored it on my external drive. I also have backups from Windows and Quicken there. I did not make a bootable CD with the data on it to be used for emergency restoration of my C drive. Unfortunately, now the emergency has arrived. I am not absolutely certain that I do have usable data, although as I said, the Drive Image program said so. I am stuck at putting in the correct information in the BartPE program because the directions are for Windows XP & my OS is Vista. I don't consider myself very techie and I need step by step instructions. I don't have a clear image in my mind about the technical aspects of this process so it’s hard for me to trouble shoot what I'm not getting right & do it differently--I haven't gotten a hold on this yet. The things the tutorials are saying are just not computing for me--shall we say? SarahJames are you still out there in cyberspace somewhere? Or the people SarahJames talked with about this? Does anyone know how to give this Bart’s PE program what it wants in order to create a disk or in some other way achieve the end goal of getting the image of my C drive restored? Maybe I should explain when this all happened. I had a windows update that was repeatedly not installing. So I looked at the update installation history to see if anything else had not restored. I noticed that SP1 said it had failed to install. I assumed that it might need to be reinstalled so I attempted to uninstall first. In the process, I lost the whole windows OS. The computer just seemed to get stuck & not progress with the uninstall. Now, since I had no CD, and I needed to find some people like the ones on this forum, I just restored C drive to factory condition. It appears to be operating typically for the way it was before any changes (arrghhhh!) so the hard drive seems ok. I cannot afford to have a tech do the restoration of my C drive for me, so I will need to be able to follow instructions to do so myself.

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SarahJames
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Ok, I'm here - first I'm going to read all you've written and then we'll see if I'm able to help you or someone else is more capable:)

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SarahJames
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Here you find how to make a VistaPE bootCD:
https://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/vistape-and-driveimage-xml-free-backup-solution?replies=6

That's what I did recently, because I couldn't figure out BartPE ;-)
If you want I have a ready made iso you can burn to a cd and then you have a readymade VistaPE bootCD with DriveImage XML on it. The only thing is I don't know how to get a 344 Mb file to you. Email won't work with a file that big and I don't have a place where to upload it yet.
So either you got to follow my tutorial on the link above or wait a couple of days till I have found a way to split and upload the iso:)

As long as you keep your external drive with the image on it safe, you're good.
We'll figure this out:)

I've tested the bootCD I made and I was able to get DriveImage XML to work with it, but I have never restored an image (yet - and hopefull won't have too LOL), so I hope one of the 'big boys' of this site will have a look and tell you what the best way is to go about it.

Don't worry!
Sarah.

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SarahJames
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Edit: if you don't have Nero, you can use the isoburner that comes with WinBuilder (see link above for VistaPE) or download a free one - there are plenty alternatives (and Vista has a built in option to burn cd's and dvd's, though I've never used that).

Secondly, I don't know if you need to clean your harddrive before restoring an image or that you have to format the drive - please don't do anything like that till someone like Lighthouse or whs or The Geek himself have given you more info on that!

goodnight for now,
Sarah.

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dreamcatcherco
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Hallaluh! Thanks for your response!!!!!! I can't express my relief that you are there and have considerable more knowledge about this process than I do so far. At least you've climbed what to me has been seeming an insurmoutable mountain--making a bootable disk to restore C drive images. Yes, I hope you won't ever need the disk you made. Of coarse, it would be great to have a pre-made iso DriveImage file but I don't know how difficult the transport would be. I'll look to see if I think the process you used looks within my capacity to accomplish--I haven't looked yet. My brain normally works fairly well, but I when I read the BartPE tutorials it seemed like it got stuck & couldn't progress/process--just like my computer had done with SP1! I think it blew out my brain's operating system-maybe the tutorial link you gave me above will reformat it!! No--I won't do anything before we find out if I need to prep my (computer's) hard drive in any way.

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dreamcatcherco
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I don't have Nero. I have not burned a CD on this system. Looks like I have Windows Media Player or Cyberlink Power to Go for that.

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dreamcatcherco
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I've had a chance to read your post about making a VistaPE boot CD. Wow! That's great that you had already posted that. Here's a potential road-block for your consideration. I quite innocently bumbled into learning that at the present time, many new computers in the USA do not come with either Vista disks for Vista reinstall/repair OR recovery disks. Had no idea until I got my computer home. The prior one lasted for about 5 years & came with an OS disk. Since needed my computer when it crashed, I didn't spend a lot of time researching the fine points of what I'd get with my new one. I was gnashing my teeth about the gaping absence of the Vista disk so I discovered that NeoSmart Technologies had a free Torrent file download X86 that could be used to repair/recover Vista. Just before downloading DriveImage XML and storing the mirror image copy on my external drive, I had made a Vista recovery disk using the Neosmart download. I can't vouch for the CD, because when I restored C drive to factory condition just recently, I didn't use it. I will grant you that I was not really calm when I was trying to see if the whole hard disk had crashed or just the OS but I had the disk in briefly--didn't get it working & took it back out. Before the crash, I had my computer set to autostart media--maybe it didn't autostart. Is there a way to check the recovery disk without having to return Vista to factory condition AGAIN? I think you mentioned a way to do that--w/ a program--in your post. Do you think that program would work for this purpose--its a CD-RW disk I put the Vista recovery data on. If the Vista recovery disk becomes too time-consuming to get working correctly or doen't have what is needed on it to restore my C drive, I will find the option of getting your large VistaPE boot disk here more interesting to pursue. At least I'd want to check the option more thoroughly & know how much of a pain in the rear it would be for you to do it. I know absolutely nothing about this sort of thing, but are there free accounts for people who do a lot of media sharing--big files--so that they have a "storage box" online to access for up & down-load? I just saw a free download for Nero--one day only--wonder if its got spyware/malware attached? Don't know what the catch is.

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dreamcatcherco
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Oh. Those free Nero downloads are because its a trial period. Or they want you to buy or order info. from a certain number of companies.
Do you know anything about CDBurnerXP (which does work on Windows Vista)? BurnAware looks interesting. I'm seeing that it is light on resources, w/ an "intuitive" interface & fast because it burns directly onto the medium, instead of waiting for "hard disk staging". ImgBurn is supposed to be advanced with lots of features. If lots of features means confusing or time-consuming to use, don't think that would be the best choice for this purpose.

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SarahJames
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I don't understand why you would have to set Vista to factory defaults when you run the bootCD.
When I insert the CD and the computer is running Vista I can access it like any other data CD.
When I restart I get a dos screen with the option to boot from the CD (and if I don't do anything that's what will boot after a minute or so) or from the hard drive (plain Vista as it is before you push the restart button).

When I have booted from the CD I can access my C drive (and any other drive attached to my PC) and all files on it, just like I access my external D drive from Vista.
So I can choose to format C (don't do that yet - we don't know if it is necessary to do so yet!!!) and I can access the DriveImage XML backup of my C drive, which is placed on my D drive.
Since the program DriveImage XML is also installed on the bootCD I can start the program, select 'restore image', browse to the file on my D drive and order it to restore it (that last part I haven't tried out, because there was no need to do so, but I see no reason why it shouldn't work, while all the rest of it worked;-D).

I have looked at those sites where you can storage large files, but the maximum size for upload is 50 MB for each file. I have a LiveSkyDrive which allows me to upload up to 5 GB for free, but I need to split the iso first. I'll look for a program that can do that, but since one of the files on the CD is 177 MB I'm not sure it is wise to split it.

So now that you do have a copy of the Vista installation disk, I think it is easiest if you follow my description and make your own iso using WinBuilder. With WinBuilder also comes a little free app called Iso Burner that you can use to burn the iso to a CD.

You can also download it here: http://www.ntfs.com/iso-burning.htm

If you're not sure your Vista installation disk is ok (you need to copy the data to your hard drive - WinBuilder has it 'easier' that way) WinBuilder will let you know, and even if that wouldn't happen you can check the iso before burning with the virtual environment an so errors would be clear.

However, since your system apparently doesn't have as much resources as mine and this might be rather taxing for you on a system that doesn't function optimal, I'm off to look for a splitting device and I'll upload my iso in split form to my Windows LiveSkyDrive.

Hopefully splitting won't be a problem.
If it doesn't work out you may have wasted an empty CD, but there won't be more harm than that, so it's worth the risk:)

I'll post the links here when I'm done.

And we'll see what needs to be done after that. Hopefully Lighthouse or someone else with knowledge about these things can tell us how we actually need to go about restoring the image.
I know the steps for Win98 SE, but Vista might have requirements we need to see to, so I'd rather be safe than sorry ...

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SarahJames
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Ok - first result in google is Free File Splitter and it seems to do the job.
I have now 8 files with a maximum size of 49 MB LOL.

You need to download this to put them back together again:
http://www.filesplitter.org/

I'm off to upload the files - link follows.

It says time to upload 2:46:45 ...
So patience is adviced, LOL.

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dreamcatcherco
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Thank you so much for checking into this--I am so grateful.

I also have done some checking since last posting--this is what I found:

I found a Life Hacker review saying their choice for large file email service was GigaSize. They say in the review it lets you upload and share files up to 1.5 GB for free. One person who commented said it doesn’t work with Firefox and if I had my C drive in place, it wouldn’t work for me because I use Firefox as my browser. But my factory condition drive at present is using Explorer so now it’s ok for me. BUT their review was dated in 2006. When I went to the site the free account allows unlimited files at 600 megabytes per file. Files are stored for 45 days.
Pando is software that allows you to e-mail large files. There is a free version. It says it‘s size is only 4MB and takes seconds to install! Can be used with Windows or Mac OS but sender and recipient have to use the same version as I understand it. Requires 256MB RAM, & a Broadband Internet connection. Can e-mail files up to one GB (I think that’s for the free version) using your existing e-mail. It tells you when files are downloaded. You don’t have to be online when recipient downloads.

I had wondered if I could directly access the file containing the image of C stored on my external drive without having to have made an intermediary stop at C drive factory defaults. BUT I didn't know if that was possible & I didn't want to risk losing the external drive image (if in fact I have it)--I knew I could restore to factory & try to find some help so I just didn't attempt restoring directly from the external drive. That's probably how this would be intended to be used in the event that you had storage on your external disk as opposed to a partion on C--seems way risky to me--or if you had no external drive & just made a recovery CD. It seemed like that minute went pretty fast & I didn't have time to study/think about it before doing something. I'm out of my league on the options at the point of boot up in recovery mode. I've never been in the position of needing to boot from a recovery disk or use a recovery console, so I'm pretty clueless but apparently also pretty lucky until recently. My other question about restoring from the external drive is whether it is too connected to the C drive. You can't restore C if you're on it, so do you have to use C if you restore from the external disk as opposed to from a CD with its own copy of DriveImage? I'm in over my head on that.
Oh, while I was writing this your next post came in. Looks like you've got it!! I'll send this real quick in the event that you're not at a point of no return & just want to finish what you've started.

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SarahJames
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You can download the chunks here - just put in a folder together, run Free File Splitter - assemble and you should have your iso :)

http://cid-77f24068d2c96cec.sk.....spx/Public

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SarahJames
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Yep, already was uploading and couldn't browse anymore. That's the disadvantage of LiveSkyDrive - you can't browse away from the window and it is incredibly slow. Bút it is free and I can leave the files on there, so if someone comes by months away from now he can probably still download the chunks of iso:)

For now, you can assemble the chunks and burn your bootCD. I've got to run. Probably back tomorrow, then we'll talk about what to do next:)

Goodnight!
Sarah.

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dreamcatcherco
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I have never heard of LiveSkyDrive before now. Sounds like it has some things to recommend it.
Goodnight? What country are you in? I think I was eating lunch when you were saying goodnight. Isn't the world a wonderous place??
I'm not as good w/ snapping up my e-mail on weekends--because that's when I can spend time with my husband. I will be making it a point to check for when you are back online through, because I want to keep moving this along whenever you are able--whether that's weekend or work week.
I will see what happens with this split file & iso & let you know how it comes out.
As you pointed out, there will no great loss on this end if it doesn't work--just a CD that didn't turn into the .iso needed to do this job.
--dreamcatcher

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SarahJames
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Hi there again:)

I'm in Holland and it is now almost one o'clock in the afternoon. When you had lunch it was early evening here, about nine.
Don't worry about when I'm here, I check regularly and computers can wait, you know. They are very very patient LOL.

I thought about the split file some more. Added Gigasize as a link, because that looks good too.
If the split version doesn't work (I hope it does, because then someone else might also profit from the iso now posted here) I have another option. Do you use MSN messenger?
http://get.live.com/messenger/features
It has a 'shared folder' function, so if both parties have their computer connected to the internet you can send files across and I think also the big ones:)

have a nice weekend!
Sarah.

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whs
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dreamcatcherco, I use LiveSkyDrive all the time. It has the advantage that you can upload most anything. Music, pictures, powerpoint presentations, documents, PDF's, Word files, etc., etc. Most other sites are specialized in one think (e.g. Photobucket is only pictures). The only thing you have to know is that whatever you upload, the "viewer" has to download in order to see it. Here is a small example of what I uploaded https://cid-475a0a48ca6d4035.skydrive.live.com/home.aspx?provision=1&ref=3

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SarahJames
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If the iso works, these are the next steps (I'm not as patient as a computer, so I started figuring out what to do next already LOL):

So the procedure to follow is:
- securing any personal files dated after making the backup
(I would secure áll personal files, just to be safe)
- boot from VistaPE bootCD
- check if driveimage xml can find and access the image on the external harddrive (using browse window)
- if alright select drive C and format
- run driveimage xml again, select restore, browse to the imagefile and wait till it's done
- restart and eject the cd
- hope and pray it has worked alright :)

I started another post for it here if you want to read all of it.

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SarahJames
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http://www.runtime.org/driveimage_faq.htm

Interesting to read! You might want to print this out for the instructions when you have trouble booting from the restored Vista:)

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dreamcatcherco
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I think I looked too quickly & without enough focus when I looked at the Live SkyDrive files yesterday. I came to the conclusion that SkyDrive probably wouldn't let me download until I registered. When I tried to register, I got a message that SkyDrive was having some technical difficulties with signup. And all afternoon it still wasn't repaired. So I thought I had to wait. I was able to get registered this morning, but then I saw how to use SkyDrive--looks like I wouldn't have had to register with SkyDrive to download from it. Its really easy to use--I just was making it too hard & wasn't focussed in. Oh, well, not a problem--Regardless of my delayed start, I now have the downloads of all chunks & the 2 compressed files unzipped in a file folder. There is also a joined file there with all the chunks. Did I need to join the 2 files that were zipped to the chunks?--I don't know what I'm doing here so I don't know if that makes any technical sense. I'm glad you are thinking ahead--I'm way behind at this point. I think the next thing I need to do with this project is download WinBuilder (which has IsoBurn included) to burn this iso to CD. And go see what my husband wants to do today. Later,
--Dreamcatcher

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SarahJames
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Rush rush, hurry hurry - now that's familiar! LOL

Read this first, all of it!, get yourself a nice cup of thee and focus - save yourself some time:)

The 2 zipped files have nothing to do with the iso - they're just files I put up some other time! LOL

You only need the chunks (all the files that begin with the name Vistape Basic).
Put them in a folder together and use Free File Splitter to put them together as one iso again:
http://www.filesplitter.org/

It's best if you create another empty folder where Free File Splitter outputs the iso.

Iso burner is also for download here as a standalone app : http://www.ntfs.com/iso-burning.htm
Download the zip version, unzip to a folder of choice and dubble click to start.
Browse to the iso and burn.

That's one part done.

I hope you and your husband had a nice weekend:)

Sarah.

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dreamcatcherco
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Lovely weekend--Saturday we went to a very nice animal farm--very interactive. Fed & brushed baby goats, petted lots of horses, watched 2 animal shows (elephant, parrots, rats, geese, hawks, eagle) watched children feed camels, petted a snake, had 4 alcoholic refreshments; rode around in the pastures to see the grazing (hoofed) animals (buffalo, deer, etc.) All the animals were outdoors living in our climate & it was fairly warm so the keepers were out spraying the huge sea turtles in the hottest part of the day. All this for free except for a very very small amount for a little goat milk. I was impressed with the quality of what they do.

More on topic--I did apparently manage to get the iso put together & a disk made. Once I was paying attention, I got the iso file downloaded & joined fairly quickly but for too many hours after that I kept beating my head against the wall trying to use Iso-Burner. Such a simple little program & I think that's one reason I kept trying to get it right. But one of us (me or Iso-Burner) was doing something wrong. It would hang up & quit responding at the end of the time I was using it. And I think I may have been putting something in the blanks wrong or setting something wrong. I was having trouble believing that since there isn't much to set or do, so I kept thinking I'd see what the problem was. Never did. The program kept saying that Windows couldn't complete the format. At one point an error message said as a workaround they recommended I decrease writing speed, use other types of CD/DVD writable media, update drivers for burner; use a burner to burn to another machine. I tried uninstalling & re-downloading and that's when the program quit responding. This morning I downloaded a different program--CD Burner XP and it took 11 minutes to make the CD at the same speed I was using with Iso-Burner and using the same disk (???) The CD Burner XP program is also simple & clear cut & I found it extremely user-friendly.

Now, thanks to your not being as patient as computers (your planning ahead) I have a list above of next steps! I do want to be clear about whether you have had some communication (seperate from this topic) with some of the members you wanted to check with about next steps. You do mention reformatting in the steps--and I think that was one thing you were wondering if we would do. If your feel that we are ready to proceed, I will start doing things that will erase what I've been doing on this factory-restored drive. I don't need some of these programs I've just recently acquired but some I need to transfer to my external drive & I have some documents to transfer also. It is my understanding that the Drive Image program is on the bootable CD I just burned--or do I need to add it?

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SarahJames
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Sounds like a lovely weekend:)

Glad to hear the iso worked, even if Iso Burner wasn't ... LOL

DriveImage is on the bootable CD. You can test the cd by booting from it and playing around a bit, like browsing images with irfanview, which is also on the cd. It will give you a feel of how the cd works before you get serious:)

And yes, I would backup on your external harddrive or on cd any documents or programs you want to keep.
In theorie you only need to backup what is added after you created your image, but I'd say better safe than sorry. I would back up any personal file you want to keep, preferably on cd. Don't forget to backup your photo's! That's something I myself would really be upset about if I would lose them ...

Backing up your data is really important, because yes, you do need to format your C drive (I asked in a seperate topic) - so you will lose anything you have on it.
Since you don't know for sure your image is alright, this is risky.
But on the other hand, there is no reason to believe the image is not alright either:)

With the bootcd you should also be able to browse the internet - you might want to test this before actually starting to format c:\
You won't be able to create or add a shortcut to this forum (it's a cd, so no data can be written to it), so write the link to this site down on a piece of paper. That way you can find us if you run into trouble ;-)

Oh, and that is one you should backup too: your links!!!
I always forget and then I'm left with searching for all my favorite sites LOL

Now when you have everything backed up and you feel confident you can follow the steps I listed earlier and hopefully your next post here will be "yeah, it all worked and I have my sytem back".

Cheers,
Sarah.

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dreamcatcherco
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Don't think I have the image. Think its bad news. If I select My Computer and go to J (your F--the external drive) I see the file that is supposed to contain my C drive image. Its a single file so it isn't in a folder. Says it's size is 20,480 kb. When I try to browse for it using Drive Image it isn't visable in the folders because it isn't inside a folder, but I can put in the letter of its drive and the name of the file (J:\Drive Image XML--Mirror Image of C drive.dmg Or F:\etc., etc) and it will come up with an error. I have no idea what this error means. It says: "Error: Filer error: Missing close tag in element. Main 285. Address: 0057906B." Do you know what a close tag is? Same thing happens when I boot the Vista PE disk & access it or when I just boot windows normally & go into the program and browse to where it is located--same error. I guess this means I didn't get a copy of the drive, doesn't it? I'm guessing that its very unlikely that there's a way to fix this error so that I can access the file? The good part of this is that I now have the Vista PE so if I ever need to do recovery of this computer in the future, I will already have the VistaPE disk to retrieve a copy of C drive. I won't happen that I have to make a CD after a crash has occurred--which I thought was stressful. The thing that makes me wonder if I might still have the Drive Image file it is that I noticed that my Quicken data file doesn't show up in the Drive Image program either and looks the same--just an outline--not colored in. But I have recovered Quicken data files before when I had to reinstall a corrupted Quicken program and they were just fine--was able to pick up exactly where I left off. Is .dmg the format the image should be in or should it have an .xml extension? So the next question I have is if you know how to restore the backups that windows made. I should have Quicken data, but I'll have to install the program.

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SarahJames
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Sounds bad ....

Let's see: in my case DriveImage has made a backup that consists of a CDrive.dat and CDrive.xml and a collection of files named CDrive.001, - 002, -003 etc.

It may be that you made a backup in Raw Mode and didn't select the option split files, so he'll make another kind of file.
....
Nope, I'm sorry I tried, but I also got a *.dat file and a *.xml file.

I don't know what yu mean by the Quicken data file or the Quicken program.
But if you have restored a corrupt file from the backup made with DriveImage, the backup should be there and working. Unless you have overwritten or deleted some of it (or the windows installation did somehow).

The fact that the icon for a quicken file shows up properly or not has nothing to do with DriveImage XML
(at least if I understand you correctly and Quicken is a seperate program, not a part of DriveImage that I somehow missed ...), but whether the association with the file in Windows is correct.
If the association is correct or not doesn't matter to DriveImage - it will just restore the file as a chunk of data. The way it was put in, it will be put out again:)

You can always use systemrestore to try and restore your pc to an earlier point in time.
In fact I think if you do have that option it is far easier than doing a full restore by means of an image of your drive.
Of course also remember to backup your personal files, otherwise you will lose the ones made after the time the systemrestore point was made.
But what this has to do with the Quicken data? I don't understand what you mean.

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dreamcatcherco
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Sorry for disappearing suddenly with no closure. I have had my hands full. Counting the time you already knew about, this last time will be the fourth time I've taken my system back to factory settings. I am trying to restore everything again, so I won't spend too much time talking rather than doing. Quicken is the program I use to manage my finances. I don't keep money matters online--they are on my personal computer. I think I might have figured out why Microsoft Office & my printer/fax/copier have been having a big fight. Keep your finger (and toes) crossed for me. Thank you so much for the VistaPE help. I will be needing your disk when I get reorganized because with this system, I will need to make sure I have backup images correctly made with DriveImage. I will need to see why the last image wasn't made correctly & make sure the next one is. I may need to ask some questions when I get to that if you are amenable.

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SarahJames
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Ms Office and HP don't go well together. I have problems with them too.
Take your time, I'll be here, sometimes a lot, sometimes a lot less, but I pop in every now and again to check at least:)

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Steve79
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Hello Sarah,
I HOPE and I PRAY you are still out there. This topic here describes perfectly my problem. All I need is just the ISO File (VistaPE with Drive Image XML - Boot disc). Unfortunately it is no longer uploaded in "Live SkyDrive".

http://cid-77f24068d2c96cec.sky ... drive.live.com/browse.aspx/Public?sa=647197458
Please could you upload it again?

I'm a bit more experienced than dreamcatcherco, but I have the serious problem, that I have no WinVista-DVD with my new laptop and I ve no WinXP-SP1-DVD, too. So ALL the suggestions of PE-Boot-CDs/DVDs in the net are useless for me. And I am not expert enough to build me that all alone.
I have only my Vista-Laptop and I ve Drive Image XML and the images. And from my point of view the Windows RestorePoints are not reliable enough, too often I get error messages after the restoring procedure.

I searched now almost the entire net (except of torrents, which I m afraid of using, 'cause of viruses...). YOU are my only hope.

Steve79

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LH
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Hi Steve. This what you are after ?
http://vistape.net/

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Steve79
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No, sorry. I already know that, but you always need a Microsoft Windows Vista DVD or an installed Windows Automated Installation Kit (WAIK). As I wrote, I ve this not with my new Laptop. So all that solutions in the net are useless for me.... you always need a original system-disc...

I only found this topic with "SarahJames", she uploaded a ISO from that Boot CD to SkyDrive. But it s gone now...

I would need a ISO of the "VistaPE with DriveImageXML" in it....

-Steve79

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ScottW
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Steve79, I have some ideas that you can try. One is to boot from a Vista Recovery disc, then run DriveImage XML from another source such as a USB flash drive, 2nd optical drive, floppy, etc. I'm not 100% sure that the Vista Recovery disc creates an environment where DriveImage can run but it's worth a try.

Otherwise, if you can't get a boot disc of any kind, see this article at lifehacker about using DriveImage XML without bootable media. In short, you need to move the hard drive to another system that can run DriveImage.

Posted 8 years ago
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SarahJames
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Hi Steve79.
Had a problem with SkyDrive a while ago. I'll upload it again. Hang on a bit:)

Cheers,
Sarah.

Posted 8 years ago
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Steve79
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Hello ScottW and thank you for you attention and the ideas,

My Laptop here only has a recovery-folder in partition D. There s no Vista Recovery Disc available. I perhaps only can take one from a friend, who has a Laptop of the same Toshiba-Series. But this takes time and the success is not granted. I will try it, it s a interesting idea.

The other solution I already saw in the net, during my research today. I m almost sure, that it would function, only perhaps one problem with the "A" --> activation of the partition could be a problem. But I think it would function. But be true, I want to use Drive Image for regular SecurityCopies of my system. During the first installation I make about 5 (!) Images of the different states of my system. I used PowerQuest and Ghost in Win2000 times very often and I think I good Image-Prg is a "gift of god" and by the way it saves so much of time. The thought that I have to disassemble my notebook, when I ve to restore a image is not that feeling of security I am searching for. Then I really would buy Acronis and pay the money with a smile on my face ;-) .

-I will try that thing with the recovery disc, but its far away to get it now (130km/75miles far away...)

-Do you ve an idea, where I can get an ISO of that VistaPE+DriveImage XML? Should it be so impossible to download it? I ve Vista here on my Laptop I bought with my money, so it is not illegal, or?

-Do you know, whether SarahJames is still here in the board?
She is a moderator, but I ve seen no action from here the last about 10 days.

, again thanks
Steve79

Posted 8 years ago
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LH
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Steve, look one post up from yours :)

Posted 8 years ago
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Steve79
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Hello Sarah,

much , much thanks. This could be the 'saver' of my evening. I will wait and hope you ve a good internet-connection.

Greetings to the netherlands, if I remember well.
-Steve79

Posted 8 years ago
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SarahJames
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Hi Steve - yes, I'm in the Netherlands:)
I forgot I had to split the lot and it takes forever to upload ...
Splitter is here: Filesplitter.
You need that to assemble the files to create the iso.
I'm off, doing the splitting and uploading and I'll post the link where you can download it a.s.a.p.

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Steve79
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Much thanks, I ll get filsplitter and make myself familiar with it.
By the way the more known WinRar can do such things, too and many people ve that prgs already installed. I ve never heard about Filesplitter, till today in this baord. I ll look how it works....

-Steve79

Posted 8 years ago
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ScottW
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Steve79, you should really have a copy of the Vista install disc. Try contacting Toshiba to see if they will send you one.

Since you use DriveImage XML, I was going to suggest that you build a UBCD4win disc. DriveImage XML is built in to the UBCD4win which boots from to a Windows XP stand-alone environment. To create a UBCD4win disc you need an XP install CD. Do you have one of those lying around? Unfortunately, there is no pre-made ISO for either UBCD4win or a VistaPE + DriveImage XML. They have to be made.

It also seems like you are a prime candidate for a commercial backup/imaging program. I use Norton Ghost 12 (14 is the latest) and it's great. Ghost comes with a Vista PE boot disc for doing recovery from. Or, if you like Acronis then get that. See this recent discussion that we had about ghosting and the available programs:
https://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/ghosting-approaches-summary-because-of-popular-demand

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SarahJames
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Ok, that took like forever ... (2 hours when I look at my last post).
But it's uploaded now, you find the files here.
Hope it works for you.

I've used filesplitter in the past, so I used it again this time:)
Could have chosen something else too, but this is fast, free and it works, so why look any further?
And because I use it to split the files, you need it to put them back together again;)

Goodnight,
Sarah.

Edit: and ScottW has a point there.
I forgot the finer details, but I believe you have to make your own disk (steps on how to are somewhere in my topics - probably this one, but I don't have the time or the energy to read what I wrote back then LOL) and come to think of it, I believe that was why I deleted it from SkyDrive in the first place.
Well, no matter now. It's up there. I'm not going to make any more changes. So if it helps you, you're welcome to it. Bye, Sarah.

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Steve79
Posts: 13

@ScottW

Hi Scott, thats a good idea, I ve never been thinking of. I should ask Toshiba about the DVD, I bought a notebook WITH Vista, why shouldn t I ve not the DVD...

About UBCD4win: I know about die WinXP-PE, BartPE... but again, you need a system disc. I have Win2000 and Win98SE. I never used WinXP. I jumped directly to WinVista...

"prime candidate" for a commercial backup/imaging program:
You are absolutely right :-)) I usually used the old Ghost (No.?) with a 3,5"disc (!) and only Fat32 support. It was simple and great. But now, in times with no 3,5"device and NTFS... I was searching for a replacement. I startet in 'about' 2007, unfortunately in 2007, there were the support of Vista much more worse. PowerQuest had no support... only one Firewall (Zonealarm) only 2 Virusscanners... and so on... So I came to Drive Image XML. I still think it could be a good solution. The prg is simple, compression in acceptable, a bit time-consuming but not more than my old Ghost :-) . If the Boot disc I will get from Sarah works fine, then it should be a good thing. I will see. The last year I had luck, restoring was not neccessary -only one/two times restoring the win-restore-point (--> RestorePoints are not reliable, s.times it not functions or it functions only "half"). If this here is not successful, I will buy a commercial solution, 'cause I m a prime candidate! :-)

-Greetings and good night!
Steve79

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Steve79
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Hi Sarah,

I m downloading it. It s for me the last thing, too. Bed is waiting... perhaps I will finish downloading tomorow.

About the ISO: I will try it. The major point was, that I ve no system disc to make my own VistaPE. And dreamcatcherco said that it worked, only her own image was damaged. I will try... much, much thanks again! It was my first time in such a board and it functions great!

Big thanks to all!

-Steve79

Posted 8 years ago
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SarahJames
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Hi Steve79,

Hahaha, you're like me - I went from Win98 straight to Vista too.
And yes, you should make your own PE disk, because you should have your own Vista install disk, but since this iso is used to restore an image made with DriveImage XML and replace an existing (and valid) Vista-installation, I see no reason to withhold this download. I've put quite some time in making the thing and haven't had to use it myself, so I would be glad to know if it works:)

Cheers,
Sarah.

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Steve79
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Hi Sarah,
I had a long day at work today... so I just used filesplitter. Wonderful Prg! without installation! and very simple. Only one thing, the 001 part was wrong named, so I renamed it (Vista PE BootCD.iso.chunk001) like all the other files. No I am burning the cd.
I ve planed to try the boot cd on my dads new laptop. I am preparing it, so that he can use it in future. This week I had a serious problem with his laptop (bad software, Vista freezing...), this was the reason why I was looking for the Vista PE with DriveImage. In the meanwhile I restored the machine with the restore-point. It functions not perfect, but it s enough. The bad software seemed to be away. So I think I will not restore a image, its too risky. I do not want to "challange the devil" without a big reason. But I will try at least the CD. I will let you know what happened. And you wrote above the CD recently was successfully used to restore a image (if I understood right). Then that sounds wonderful.

best wishes
Steve79

Posted 8 years ago
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Steve79
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only short. The burning faild. My laptop again don t like my old CDRW 4x-Speed discs. I have to try it at my other Tower-PC I will see this weekend.

I wish a good sleep
-Steve79

Posted 8 years ago
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Steve79
Posts: 13

Hello Sarah,

I finally burned the iso on a CDRW with Nero (--> used "burn image" in upper menu of nero).
Everything went fine. The CD is readable and of course I adjusted the boot sequence at the laptop. But the system does not boot from that CD. It always starts Windows Vista on the HDD. I don t understand why this can be?
Any idea?
Were there some changes during the last years (after Win2000) I missed? :-)

Greetings
Steffen

Posted 8 years ago
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LH
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You can temporarily set your BIOS to boot from CD. Or your computer may have have an F key option to boot from CD.

Posted 8 years ago
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Steve79
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Hi LH,

I already adjusted the Boot Sequence in the BIOS to:
1. CD / DVD
2. USB
3. HDD
4....
..
It s a Toshiba Laptop. The keys here are F2 and F12.

During the start the CD-drive is turning , then unfortunately WinVista starts and during that process the CD-drive is turning again sometimes...
I don t understand that. It should be an iso from a bootable CD...

>>temporarily set your BIOS to boot from CD
Is this another option or do we speak from the same?

-Steve79

Posted 8 years ago
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Steve79
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Hi again,

I checked the disc now in 2 Computers. They reacted the same, and turned the cd-drive fast a few times, but they not booted from the cd.

Steve79

Posted 8 years ago
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SarahJames
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Mine boots ok. I don't know what went wrong. Maybe it's the splitting up of the iso, but I have no other means of uploading the file.

Maybe someone else has an idea ...

Cheers,
Sarah.

Posted 8 years ago
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Steve79
Posts: 13

Hello Sarah,

Today I tried other (older) boot cds and the computer boots with them. So s.th. must be wrong with yours I ve downloaded.

And I recognized another interesting obstacle. The older boot cds do not see my harddisks. The HDD of the laptop are SATA. This is not supported by them.... Even if your disc would boot, I don t know if it would support my HDDs....

...perhaps I should really buy a commercial solution...
...there are so many problems, its a terrible chain-reaction.

-tired Steve79 :-))

Posted 8 years ago
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SarahJames
Posts: 6581

Hi Steve79,

Sorry to read that.
A Vista bootcd should recognize sata drives.
And I have no problem booting from my own version, though I have never tried restoring an image with it.
I'll look into the download and why it doesn't work later on. No time at the moment.

Take care;)
Sarah.

Posted 8 years ago
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SarahJames
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By now I have to report I have tried to restore an image and was succesfull!
VistaPE BootCD works like a charm - I had everything back in less than 30 minutes.

For me that means SystemRestore is out the door, because it makes creating an image a lot slower and I had to revert to DriveImage, because SystemRestore refused to work.
Now what use is it when it doesn't work when I need it?
I rather schedule DriveImage to make a new image once a week.

Cheers,
Sarah.

p.s. So I expect splitting the iso is what causes a problem. I'll try and find another place to store the iso.

Posted 8 years ago
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CyBa84
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At http://www.spread-it.com/ you can upload up to 500mb
At http://megashares.com/ even 10GB (!) but has much ads.

Posted 8 years ago
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CyBa84
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Hey Sarah :)

would you please be so kind and upload this again for us? I´ve tried to build that iso by my own, but the integration of driveimage xml never worked for me. I´ve tried to use several scripts for this, i´ve tried it with a script i´ve made, but without luck :/

It would be great to see a working one ..without driveimage xml, making an own iso is no problem of course :)

I really appreciate your work!

Posted 8 years ago
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SarahJames
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Hi CyBa84 - I will upload it, but not today. The problem with most of these sites is that you have to log in on a regular basis or the account is closed, or uploading is a pain or there are too much adds etc.
I don't have the time to look into it right now - maybe tomorrow. I'll try ;)

Cheers,
Sarah.

Posted 8 years ago
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SarahJames
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Ok, made a new iso from my cd, burned that to cd to test it and it works like a charm.
So this good iso I've uploaded to MyOtherDrive.
It should work now. Let me know if you have trouble with the download - I'm new to MyOtherDrive, but it seems like this might be a good option.

Cheers,
Sarah.

Posted 8 years ago
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rich1039
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Hi Sarah, I successfully created your VistaPE with DIX. Works great! However some of the language is German (I think). Do you have any plans to translate to English?. Thanks for all your efforts. Rich

Posted 8 years ago
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SarahJames
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Hi Rich,

Welcome to HTG;)

It's Dutch. I tried Vistalisator to get an English version of Vista, but the app doesn't work for me.
If you mean DIX - I could change that, but I won't, because it means reassembling the VistaPE disk and that is a lot of work and this version works, so unless I get really bored I don't see that happening ;)
I'm glad the iso works now.

Best regards,
Sarah.

Posted 8 years ago
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rich1039
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Sarah, Thanks for the fast response! I'll get a Dutch dictionary :) It's not really a problem!

Rich

Posted 8 years ago
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SarahJames
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Ok, I'm glad ;)

Posted 8 years ago
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CyBa84
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Thank you very much Sarah =) Now it works, great peace of work!

Posted 8 years ago
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jmxfield
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Hi Sarah. I am also having problems creating the iso. Is it possible to download the split file? The link to the files at http://cid-77f24068d2c96cec.sk.....spx/Public seems to be broken? Thanks.

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