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Installing Windows XP w/ pre-existing Vista on HP Laptop

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nrv1013
Posts: 35

I had all kinds of problems trying to install XP to dual boot with Vista on my HP Pavillion dv6500t. I thought I would post my solutions in case anyone else is running into the same problems.

I successfully partitioned my drive:
C: Vista
D: HP Recovery
F: XP

Then I tried to install XP, which returned an error message saying hard drive not found. After wandering through various forums, I found out that XP doesn't come with drivers for S-ATA drives. So I went to the manufacturer's website (Intel) and downloaded the drivers. The easy option would have been to install them from a floppy drive. But since this is a laptop, that really wasn't an option. The other option would be to disable S-ATA from the bios and install the drivers once XP is installed. However, HP locked down the BIOS and most of the features are unavailable. My only other option was to slipstream the drivers into the XP setup.

To do this, I used Nlite. While I was at it, I also slipstreamed SP2 and the drivers for my network card. But I hit another problem. Nlite only reads inf driver files but the Intel drivers came as an exe file. I tried the easy suggestion of extracting the files with Winrar but that didn't work. So I just installed the drivers on another computer (which was running XP, but I'm not sure that it matters). Then I searched for *.inf and found the Intel folder (C:\Program Files\Intel\...) where the setup dumped the drivers.

Once Nlite finished, I burned a bootable disc from the ISO with Alchohol 120%. Then I rebooted and installed XP.

I had all sorts of problems with VistaBootPro. I followed the steps in the How To guide but I couldn't get it to find XP. I eventually gave up and selected Add New OS Entry. I chose legacy version of Windows and named it XP. Then I rebooted. Now on my boot screen I had Vista, HP Recovery, and XP. But when I tried to boot into XP, I got an error saying the ntldr file was missing. It turned out that I needed to copy the ntldr (a hidden system file) that XP had dumped in my Vista root drive (C: which is my system drive) into the XP root (F:). Also, NtDetect.com needs to be with ntldr.

And I now have a laptop that dual boots into Vista and XP.

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supermansghost
Posts: 350

Wow, that's great... thanks!

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jzng89
Posts: 4

Hey, okay. I followed the How TO guide

https://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/install-windows-xp-on-your-pre-installed-windows-vista-computer/#comment

My prob is that at the bootloader screen it shows both Vista and XP. Vista can boot fine, but XP won't boot saying that there was some software or hardware changes that made XP refuse to boot. (the thing that happens when you install a new motherboard)

HP pavillion 2000 laptop. Pre-installed Windows Vista Home Premium. XP was fine till I installed the Vista bootloader.

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nrv1013
Posts: 35

jzng89

XP was working until you used Vista Bootloader then restarted and tried to boot into it? I would boot into Vista and make sure the ntldr and NtDetect.com files are in the XP root folder. You'll have to change the Folder Options to view hidden system files (which Vista moved to the Control Panel instead of using in the folder). This is what the bootloader looks for to load XP. Are you getting an error like: "status: 0xc000000f", "Windows failed to Load" where it suggests repairing XP?

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jzng89
Posts: 4

Yeap, you're right on point. Where are those files located? Are they just literally in the C: drive or are there sub folders I need to go through and where do i paste it?

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nrv1013
Posts: 35

I found mine in my system directory (C:).
C:\ntldr
C:\ntdetect.com

This is my Vista drive. So I copied them into my XP drive (F:). If you can't find them there, they are on the XP install cd. It's a hidden folder called i386. If your cd drive is E it would be:
E:\i386\ntldr and E:\i386\ntdetect.com

They just go in the root folder.
F:\ntldr
F:\ntdetect.com

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jzng89
Posts: 4

Thanks, my drive letters are exactly the same as yours :D I downloaded the files and will try since I couldn't find the files in the vista drive nor the XP drive. I didn't think of looking in the CD :P I'll let you know how things go thanks

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The Geek
Posts: 2059

nrv1013, thanks for this great contribution!

I'll try and roll this into an official article (and give you the credit, naturally)

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nrv1013
Posts: 35

jzng89, I hope it works for you!

The Geek,
Glad I could offer something back. The How To guide was extremely helpful in getting me started. HP just makes everything much more difficult. I can write up more detailed steps if you're planning on making a guide. There are a few details I left out that might be helpful for a step by step guide.

The information about the ntldr file came from this blog post:
http://blog.svoboda.co.nz/Comm.....ecbdd.aspx

It also has instructions on how to run BCDEdit from the command prompt. I did try it during one of my attempts to get XP to boot. It's another option for people who are having problems with VistaBootPro.

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jzng89
Posts: 4

Thanks for all the help. The laptop works perfectly now. I noticed on my google searches that only HP laptops have this prob. Wonder why. Anyway thank you soooo much :D

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The Geek
Posts: 2059

I've been working on an article covering how to use nlite to slipstream the drivers in... you are right, the biggest irritation is that all the manufacturers distribute the drivers in idiotic ways. It also makes the article difficult to write.

Just so you know, you can usually use winimage to extract those .exe files (not sure about intel, but it works for the HP drivers from the HP site)

The biggest problem with all this is that I can't seem to duplicate this ntldr error, which would make it a lot easier.

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nrv1013
Posts: 35

An article on how to use Nlite for slipstreaming would be great. That was one of my major hurdles in this whole process. Of course, it took me a few tries to realize I had made my boot disk with a Volume License version of XP that I only had an expired key for. It worked wonderfully once I used a regular version of XP Pro.

I just tried using WinImage on the Intel exe file. I just open it in WinImage? It said it couldn't read it. This is the file I tried:
http://downloadcenter.intel.co.....me=Windows*%20XP%20Professional&lang=eng

I think I've only ever seen the ntldr error referring to HP's. Maybe it has something to do with the recovery drive they put on there.

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nrv1013
Posts: 35

I forgot about this link. It explains more about the ntldr error:
http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000465.htm

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supermansghost
Posts: 350

Extremely helpful info! I'll start pointing people towards this thread from now on.

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skysurfer64
Posts: 7

Hey,

Thanks for the info. I followed the instructions, but even though I copied ntldr and ntdetect.com to my XP drive, my laptop still said that the file was missing when I tried to load XP. Does anybody know what I can do? I have an Acer 9410.

Thanks

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nrv1013
Posts: 35

Is the file in both the XP drive and the main system drive (probably C:)? I think it needs to be in both root directories so both bootloaders can find it.

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supermansghost
Posts: 350

Be sure and post back if that fixes the issue, so we can update the info for everybody.

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skysurfer64
Posts: 7

Hey,

No luck, any other ideas? I tried installing xp again, but same error.

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nrv1013
Posts: 35

What exactly is the error message? Does it say the ntldr file is missing?

Do you have the boot.ini file with ntldr and ntdetect.com?

And while I'm here, I found the Microsoft article dealing with Vista/XP dual bootloaders:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/919529

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skysurfer64
Posts: 7

Hi,

Its the same message that others are getting (ntldr dile is missing or corrupt). I think it didn't work for me cause my friend gave me a pirated version (no wonder!). Anyways, I got a legit copy so I will try and see if it works this time.

Also, do i need the boot.ini file too?

Thanks

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nrv1013
Posts: 35

Hopefully the legit copy will work for you.

The boot.ini is part of XP's bootloader. It needs to be in the same place as ntldr and ntdetect.com, but it's usually in the right place even if the other two aren't.

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skysurfer64
Posts: 7

Hey,

It still didn't work. I copied the two files over to the xp harddrive and the same error popped up, so I thought Id check up on the boot.ini. It seems that I can't find it. Its not in vista, the setup cd or even in xp. What should I do? Also, do the ntldr and ntdetect have to be in the root folder of vista as well or are they fine in whatever folder they reside in?

Thanks

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skysurfer64
Posts: 7

Hey,

I did it! Finally, after 4 days (now I see why macs are better..lol). I found the boot.ini file in vista and then copied it to the xp drive, but that didn't work. Then I dld vistabootpro on my vista and went under manage entries and clicked on xp and then changed its drive (because some ppl said that the files where there, but in the wrong drive), and that did it! Thanks for the help, now I must update XP.

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skysurfer64
Posts: 7

Hi,

One more thing I noticed. On vista, the computer says that Vista is C, XP is F, CD ROM is E, and Recovery is D. But on XP, it says that Vista is C, XP is D and CD ROM is E. Why did this occur and how can I fix this?

Thanks

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imdprogamer
Posts: 1

This is one awesome post and it was very useful. But I'm struggling to find drivers for my Sony Vaio VGN-CR11GH/L....

Anyway Thanx once again

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savishypv
Posts: 6

Thanks ALL of you guys! Was tearing my head 3 hrs back.. but now I have successfully moved from Vista to XP with minimal hitches. My problems were same as Skysurfer64.

For the record, mine is a Dell Inspiron laptop... Just to suggest that perhaps the make of the laptop may not be the issue causing the ntldr problem.

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mike32
Posts: 1

Help...
Thank you for this great support...
As expected I follow your guide and perfect until boot time, when given option at restart I click Xp and is telling me I’m missing this file….( \ntldr)
I have located this files in my windows CD however I’m not so sure where exactly in my xp partition they need to go, XP is in my (F:)drive so I copy them here, and now I have Three folders Documents and settings + Program Files + Windows and ntdetect.com and ntldr after booting up with Win xp same error..
Question: Do they go here or in windows folder ? About system 32.
Thank you all in advanced..

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nrv1013
Posts: 35

skysurfer64:
Glad you finally got it working! My Vista and XP change the drive letters around too. I think you can just set them to whatever you want in either operating system. Drive letters are set up by the OS and shouldn't affect the actual hard disc location. Vista stays as the C drive because it's the system drive. Then XP just dumps the rest in order after that since it can't read Vista's drive setup.

imdprogamer:
If you can't find the drivers on Sony's support site, try the manufacturer directly, such as Intel.

savishypv:
Thanks for the information about Dell! It seemed odd that HP was the only one doing it. I still have no idea why the ntldr keeps getting lost though.

mike32:
The files need to go in your XP root drive, ie F:\ntldr, F:\ntdetect.com, F:\boot.ini
Mine are also in my Vista (system) root, C. (I'm not sure if that's necessary or not). Make sure you have a boot.ini file. If not, read skysurfer64's comment about using VistaBootPro to create a manual boot entry which points to the F: drive.

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daredevil
Posts: 2

Ok I'm a bit frustrated here. I've been trying to set this up for a day now. I'm all the way to the step of moving ntldr and ntdetect.com to the root. I 'think' i've done that, but I keep getting the same error from bootloader. it can't see the file.

can someone please explain exactly how to move the file? I'm in Vista, I open the folder /i386/ on my dvd drive(e:) I find the two files. I click copy. I open my xp drive (d:) and click paste. I reboot. and the same thing happens.

what am I missing here?

thanks in advance.

DD

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nrv1013
Posts: 35

daredevil:

Do you have a boot.ini file? It should go with ntldr and ntdetect.com into the d: drive. If you don't have a boot.ini file, you should be able to get VistaBootPro to make one with a manual boot entry. You may or may not need the three boot files in your c: drive.

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wwtech
Posts: 3

It is going to be a semi-relevant question but how did you manage to partition the hard drive. I tried to follow the instructions in this article:

https://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/using-gparted-to-resize-your-windows-vista-partition/

but it is not as smooth of a ride as it has been for the author of this article. I ran into problems. Posted a new thread here:

https://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/vista-partition-does-not-resize-using-gparted

but I am not getting any traction from others. Am I the only one with this problem ?

Cheers

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nrv1013
Posts: 35

I used Vista to partition its own hard drive. You have to tell it to shrink itself before you can create a new partition.

Right click on Computer and select Manage. Then right click on your C: (system) drive and select Shrink Volume. In the amount of space to shrink put in the size you want your new partition to be. You should then get a section that says unallocated free space. Then right click and select New Simple Volume. Format it to NTFS for XP. If you want to put Linux on, I'm not sure if it has an option for EXT3. You can always use GParted to format the unallocated space now that Vista has given it up.

I got my instructions on how to do all of this here:
https://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/install-windows-xp-on-your-pre-installed-windows-vista-computer/

The only methods I've seen involve Vista's own Shrink Volume feature and GParted. You could also look into something else like QtParted, which I've never used. As far as I know, it's best to just let Vista do its own shrinking and then you should be able to use any other utility for the formatting.

There's also this article that describes how to deal with some of the problems when using Shrink Volume:
https://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/working-around-windows-vistas-shrink-volume-inadequacy-problems/

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daredevil
Posts: 2

I just wanted to say that I figured out my one problem. I installed bootloader on the Vista drive. Ran it, then changed the drive letter to the correct one for the XP partition drive. Rebooted and the correct screen came up! yeah.

Now the only problem is, XP is not recognizing the Nvidia driver for my network adapter. Hopefully not because it's a Dell and Vista came pre installed? Nor my audio drivers. Those two things are now my new problem.

any help with that issue would be stellar.

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nrv1013
Posts: 35

I finally realized why everyone is still having problems even after they copy the files to the correct folder. You need to make a manual entry that points to the XP boot files in Vista's bootloader. Which I had done first with VistaBootPro from XP. Apparently the steps can be done out of order, but they both need to occur in order to fix the ntldr file. The files need to exist in the right folder and Vista needs to know which drive to look at. For those who don't want to have to download VistaBootPro and the .NET framework, you can use the bcdedit command in the command prompt to accomplish the same thing. (But then again, I like command line fixes over programs I download and use only once.)

daredevil:
You need to get the Nvidia XP drivers since Vista has it's own drivers that XP won't understand. You should be able to get that from Nvidia's website or Dell's support site. Same goes for the audio drivers.

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Furyy
Posts: 4

Gahh I need help!

I posted this in a post but maybe you can help me here....

I know I will need to do another installation involving nlite and drivers.... but for now I just want xp and vista to dual-boot properly.... When I followed the guide exactly and tried to boot up XP I get this error: "d:/XP/WINDOWS/system32/boot/winboot.exe - File is either corrupt of missing" How in the heck do I fix this? Considering I'm very computer illiterate... Can anyone help me with a short step by step guide in "nooby terms"

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Furyy
Posts: 4

never mind I fixed my problem, my solution was just logging onto vista, uninstalling vistaboot and using easyBCD1.7 instead.... works just fine... My new problem.... It appears my wireless card built in my computer doesn't have drivers that are windows xp compatible..... Is it still possible to find the driver .inf files and implement them into a bootable cd? and it will work? im so confused... or am I screwed?

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nrv1013
Posts: 35

Furyy

You need to get the drivers from either your computer manufacturer or wireless card manufacturer (Intel, etc). You should be able to download the drivers and install them directly in XP. It's not necessary to incorporate them into a custom boot cd unless you want to have them in case you need to reinstall XP at a later date. The only drivers that might have to be done in the boot cd are the S-ATA drivers on a laptop.

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marchi
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nrv1013

"For those who don't want to have to download VistaBootPro and the .NET framework, you can use the bcdedit command in the command prompt to accomplish the same thing. (But then again, I like command line fixes over programs I download and use only once.)"

Are you referring to the method proposed in http://support.microsoft.com/kb/919529?

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nrv1013
Posts: 35

marchi: Yes, that's the method I was referring to. I have tried it and it does basically the same thing as 'Add Manual OS Entry' in VistaBootPro.

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Cheeno
Posts: 4

Hello im sorry but i don't know what drivers to get for the ISo to make with nlite i know i have install them on a another computer to get the INF but what are the called im sorry can you guys please help me out i have been trying to dual boot for about a month

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nrv1013
Posts: 35

Cheeno:

Are you trying to find the drivers for your hard drive? You can either get them from the support site for your laptop manufacturer or get them directly from the manufacturer. In my case, I just went to Intel's website. I had to find my chipset but they have a tool to download that will do that. Then I picked my OS and downloaded the driver that specified SATA support. You'll have to look around for other drivers such as audio and graphics. Hopefully they'll be on your laptop support page. If you can't find them, let me know specifically which computer you have and I'll see if I can locate them for you.

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Cheeno
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Hi you know i have the same one you got when you first stated this forum I'm looking for those drives for the nilte so i can pass that pesky folpy driver issue please help i don't know where else to look if you need my email let me know? I have to get this going it has been two months trying ;-)

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soleb
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Hey,

Ok so i followed all the steps in the guide (dual booting xp with vista pre-installed). The xp installation was successful so it worked when it booted the first time when i only had xp. Then I used Vistabootpro and installed a vista bootloader. I restarted my laptop to check if everything was there. I went on vista to make sure nothing went wrong and restarted again. I selected windows xp and it says:

0xc000000f The boot selection failed because a required device is inaccessible

can anyone help me with this? I was so happy when it first loaded

please help =0

PS: i own a Pavilion dv9205us

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glowinthedarkcar
Posts: 1

Thank you skysurfer64!!! In regards to...

"Hey,I did it! Finally, after 4 days (now I see why macs are better..lol). I found the boot.ini file in vista and then copied it to the xp drive, but that didn't work. Then I dld vistabootpro on my vista and went under manage entries and clicked on xp and then changed its drive (because some ppl said that the files where there, but in the wrong drive), and that did it!"

...I was tearing my hair out over my new Dell Inspiron desktop with the same problem as you, and changing the drive for xp in vistabootpro totally fixed it. Now I can use my system and stop staying up late at night crying!

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Cheeno
Posts: 4

I still need help with this problem nrv1013 please if you need my email let me know

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jet431
Posts: 4

Hi everybody,

Just fell in the same trap, bought a HP dv6570ed, wanted to create a dual boot with XP for work and use the vista as a media center at home.
I followed all the instructions, was succesfull, thanx for all the great guides here.
But now I can't get the network port to work under XP. It works under Vista, but XP does not see my router at home. Pinging says destination host unreachable.....
And another bunch of drivers is still missing, but I haven't inventarized all missing drivers yet, as I thought with updating XP through the internet would solve most of these problems. Any help is much appreciated. I phoned HP support for a driver cd or something but got no help what so ever, just saying I should run the recovery cd and that they do not support any modifications....so much for their help.

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chadcham
Posts: 3

I think I need some additional help on this thing.

I have created my partition for XP, I have used nLite to create a new XP install disk with the SATA drivers, however when I try to install XP Professional I still only see the primary partition and even that is identified as 'UNKNOWN' for the file system.

Does anyone have any idea how to get the XP Installation to see the partition I have created or even to see the C: drive as an NTFS drive???

Thank you for any help you can provide.
Chad

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panthar
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Hey nrv1013 I have same laptop as you. I had vista on it preinstalled. Now I partitioned my drive from vista create a nother partition D. I dropped the existing partition for recovery, as I had recovery DVD discs with me.

Now I created a XP cd using nLite, I was able to it. I installed XP on D drive. Now I boot my laptop it boots by default onto XP.

ALl is ok. I managed to get hold of quite lot of drivers. Now I installed this vistaBootPro3.3.0 on XP but when I run it I see only VISTA, I dont see any entry for XP ?

Please help. I have repeated the steps atleast 5 times, but I get same results each time. What do I have to do in order to get this dual boot option..

When I chose vista in vistabootpro and reboot, XP booting is lost, I came back to my vista from where I am typing this message ...

please help ''''''''

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Acquiesce
Posts: 1

Hi there,

I've tried slipstreaming with nlite the required SATA drivers (downloaded from intel website of the F6flpy32.exe - but i cross-checked the dates of the tutorial and its abit outdated not sure if this is the case of my failure to install XP)

I burn the installation image and tried installing XP but somehow it failed to detect any disk drive on my notebook. (strange thing that i managed to install XP throught virtual PC)

i've checked the configuration setting in the burn new XP installation disc and i found these entries:

[Drivers]
C:\Users\bob\Downloads\F6flpy32\iaahci.inf,iaStor_ICH5RHR
C:\Users\bob\Downloads\F6flpy32\iaahci.inf,iaStor_ICH5R
C:\Users\bob\Downloads\F6flpy32\iaahci.inf,iaAHCI_ICH6M
C:\Users\bob\Downloads\F6flpy32\iaahci.inf,iaAHCI_ICH6R
C:\Users\bob\Downloads\F6flpy32\iaahci.inf,iaStor_ICH6R
C:\Users\bob\Downloads\F6flpy32\iaahci.inf,iaAHCI_ICH7R
C:\Users\bob\Downloads\F6flpy32\iaahci.inf,iaStor_ICH7DH

I'm using HP DV6601tx with vista pre installed.

been cracking my head 3 days ago to get this XP dual boot.

Thanking your guys in advance.

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mivid
Posts: 1

pls. i want 2 tnk all d grt. guys here.
BUT PLS.PLS.PLS. CAN ANYONE GIVE ME A STEP-BY-STEP HOW-2-DO IT, THAT IS HOW TO DISABLE SATA IN MY HP PAVILION DV6000 LAPTOP SO THAT I CAN FIX XP.

THANKS FOR UR ANTICIPATED REPLY.

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kthornhi
Posts: 1

I too have slipstreamed SATA drivers from HP and Intel to no avail. XP refuses to see my SATA drives and there is no option in the bios to disable native sata either, it does however offer the option of installing to my usb HDD which I am tempted to use after making 3 nlite xp disks.

My chipset:
Chipset Vendor Intel Corporation
Chipset Model Mobile PM965/GM965/GL960 Express Processor to DRAM Controller
South Bridge 82801HEM (ICH8M-E) LPC Interface Controller
SMBus Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) SMBus Controller @1C00h

Logical Disks
Drive Drive Type Bus Type File System Total Size Used Space Free Space % Free
C:\ (OS) Local Disk ATA NTFS 3.1 141.5 (GB) 48.5 (GB) 92.9 (GB) 66 %
D:\ (DATA) Local Disk ATA NTFS 3.1 149.0 (GB) 43.9 (GB) 105.0 (GB) 70 %
E:\ (HP_RECOVERY) Local Disk ATA NTFS 3.1 7695 (MB) 5367 (MB) 2327 (MB) 30 %
F:\ (071204_2010) DVD ATAPI UDF 4201 (MB) 4201 (MB) 0 (MB) 0 %
G:\ (KINGSTON) Removable Disk USB FAT32 1920 (MB) 178 (MB) 1742 (MB) 91 %
H:\ (LOCAL DISK) Local Disk USB FAT32 233.6 (GB) 129.5 (GB) 104.1 (GB) 45 %

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vistatroubled
Posts: 2

Hi Guys,
I have a big problem here.My laptop is a Pre-Installed Windows Vista Compaq Presario C717NR.After buying this I did not created the backup CD's and only by reading this article went for the Dualboot of having XP. I created the other partition fine and disabled the SATA settings and installed windows XP unsuccessfully. Before doing all these steps I did not install either this VistaBootPRO_3.3.0.exe or dotnetfx.exe (dotnet framework) . As most of you faced the problem I also faced the same problem. When I boot my laptop I lost Vista and for XP it was giving me the error message NTLDR is missing. I copied all the 3 files from c drive ( Vista) to d drive (XP) using the XP recovery Console (boot.ini,ntldr and ntdetect.com) but still no use. I have copied VistaBootPRO_3.3.0.exe , dotnetfx.exe and SATA drivers in a flash drive but my problem is how to install them as I have only DOS access and on DOS it is not recognizing the USB flash drive.I even tried creating a CD but that also did not help as once I boot from CD I can't change the CD in CD drive.I do not have a floppy drive.
With this horrible experience I don't want XP installed on my laptop I just want my Windows Vista back . How I can achieve that ? Or what is the way to install VistaBootPro when I can't take out the WinXP CD out from CD drive and it does not recognize the USB flash Drive.
Please help, I have an assignment to finish and without having either XP or Vista it is big problem to me.
Thanks in advance for your help.

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gneb
Posts: 1

hi! i have the dualboot option for XP and Vista but when i click XP, it just restarts the computer. But the vista, on the other hand, works fine. what should i do? i had copied ntldr and ntdetect.com from the XP cd into laptop's Xp's root folder. I tried to copy also the boot.ini files but can't find it in vista's and xp's folders, and even in xp's cd as well.
pls help me!

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BobJam
Posts: 1052

This may be tedious to read through, but this guy's web site gives an EXCELLENT discussion of the topic:

http://www.multibooters.co.uk/mbr.html

Including the use of BCDedit, ntldr file, locations, ini files, partitioning, SATA drivers etc. VERY pertinent.

BJ

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trailblazr
Posts: 1

hi guys

please help me.I hav a Toshiba A200 laptop with Vista Premiumin it.I put XP onto it and did all wat u said.But only my Vista is booting , Whn i go for XP .its giving an error..

The Error is as follows.

FILE:\ntldr
STATUS: 0xc000000e
INFO:The selected entry could not be loaded bcoz the application is missing or corrupt.

Please help me guys...

Posted 9 years ago
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cleo
Posts: 1

Hello all,
I have read and aplied all the article, have installed XP in my laptop HP Compaq 6510b, wich has Vista pre-installed. XP run fine that time.
Then, I downloaded and installed VistaBootPro, and after that nothing runs, it appears the menu when I can select Vista Or XP but it always begins to boot with Vista and it never really boots, it begins to Repair the system and thats all.

I have tried lots of things, repair from Vista DVD, nothing.
Tried with bootsect and bootrec. NOTHING.
Anyone could help me please?? Which way could I repair my laptop because with Vista DVD it is impossible.

Thanks in advance.

Posted 9 years ago
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jd2066
Posts: 3814

You can try burning a repair disc by following the article at https://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/how-to-make-a-windows-vista-repair-disk-if-you-dont-have-one/
Then try running Startup Repair.
See the help page at http://windowshelp.microsoft.c.....51033.mspx to do that. Just click the heading "How do I use Startup Repair?" and where it says to use the installation disc use the repair disc made above.

Posted 9 years ago
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srini
Posts: 1

hi,

i installed a 64 bit xp as my second os. my first os is vista 32 bit. i used vistabootpro to boot to vista.
now i can log into vista but not into xp. i copied the ntdetect.com and ntldr to xp root from vista installation it didnt work. so i copied the files from xp cd even now i am not able to boot to xp. please help

Posted 9 years ago
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jd2066
Posts: 3814

@srini: Try this:
Run VistaBootPro.
Click the "View Settings" button at the top.
Click the "Detailed" radio button.
Right click on the text box and click Select All.
Right click on the text box and click Copy.
Then paste that in a reply.
I'll look at it and see if anything with the boot configuration looks incorrect.

Posted 9 years ago
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eldrizno
Posts: 1

nrv1013 & all, thanks for the time you have put in on this info.

I have a dv9700nr and a dv6736nr. Both pre-installed Vista, but I want my XP Pro on both.

I notice that the concentration of these posts and questions involve "dual-booting", what is the procedure for totally wiping out Vista and installing only XP Pro? Will this make the process any easier? Will installing drivers and getting XP running perfectly be less of a hassle? From your experience, what problems should I expect never to be fixed from this "downgrade"?

Your tips/advice would be invaluable as I'm about to tackle this in the next week. Thanks!

Posted 9 years ago
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Ximbalo
Posts: 2

I am about to DOWNGRADE a client's HP Pavilion dv6000 ( dv6208nr ) from Vista Premium to XP Pro SP2.

In order to prepare ahead of time I have created the Vista Recovery DVD's and spent quite a bit of time online in CHAT with HP Tech Support.

I post here the significant contents of our CHAT in the hopes that it may provide help to others performing an HP downgrade. Here's hoping I am successful! ( Tipping Wine Glass )

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HP Support: HP does not recommend retail version Operating System installation or downgrade in

Operating system on any of it's notebooks as some of the drivers and applications may not work.

For more information please visit the following weblink.

Ximbalo: Ok, I understand. However, the client wishes me to to install XP on their system.
Ximbalo: Before I begin I'd like to know if all XP drivers exist for system internals ?

HP Support: I will look for XP system drivers and controllers for you, pleas wait...

HP SUpport: I will provide you with links, copy and past URL's to your browser:

HP Support: http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfr.....cDocument?

docname=c01092639&cc=us&dlc=en&lc=en&jumpid=reg_R1002_USEN

HP Support: Please follow the below drivers links:
HP Support: I will confirm when I complete providing the complete drivers links.

HP Support: Link 1: HP Quick Launch Buttons
HP Support: ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/softpaq/s.....p38171.exe

HP Support: Synaptics Touchpad
HP Support: ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/softpaq/s.....p37065.exe

HP Support: Synaptics Touchpad
HP Support: ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/softpaq/s.....p37065.exe

HP Support: HP 1.3 MegaPixel (MP) Webcam Software Drivers
HP Support: ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/softpaq/s.....p35414.exe

HP Support: HP Optical USB Mobile Mouse Driver
HP Support: ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/softpaq/s.....p35208.exe

HP Support: HP Wireless Laser Mini Mouse Software Driver
HP Support: ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/softpaq/s.....p35210.exe

HP Support: Yuan EC300 DVB-T TV Tuner Driver
HP Support: ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/softpaq/s.....p33703.exe

HP Support: Broadcom Wireless LAN Driver
HP Support: ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/softpaq/s.....p36684.exe

HP Support: HP Wireless Assistant
HP Support: ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/softpaq/s.....p35333.exe

HP Support: WinFlash for HP Notebook System BIOS
(for Notebooks with AMD Processors) - Microsoft Windows/Vista-Based
HP Support: ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/softpaq/s.....p38061.exe

HP Support: LightScribe Host Software
HP Support: ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/softpaq/s.....p36971.exe

HP Support: Help and Support Center
HP Support: ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/softpaq/s.....p35451.exe

HP Support: HP Software Update
HP Support: ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/softpaq/s.....p34794.exe

HP Support: Summer 2006 Original NVIDIA Chipset Drivers
HP Support: http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfr.....loadIndex?

cc=us&lc=en&softwareitem=ob-40487-1&jumpid=reg_R1002_USEN

HP Support: NVIDIA GeForce Go 6150 Graphics Driver
HP Support: ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/softpaq/s.....p33549.exe

HP Support: Microsoft Universal Audio Architecture (UAA) Bus Driver
for High Definition Audio from the following weblink
HP Support: ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/softpaq/s.....sp32646.ex

HP Support: Conexant High Definition Audio Driver from the following weblink
HP Support: ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/softpaq/s.....p34200.exe

HP Support: Conexant HDAUDIO Soft Data Fax Modem drivers from the below weblink
HP Support: ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/softpaq/s.....p33890.exe

HP Support: Media Card Reader Driver from the below weblink:
HP Support: ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/softpaq/s.....p33604.exe

Ximbalo: Ok, that is VERY helpful...
Ximbalo: What about dealing with SATA drivers for disk recognition during XP Install?

HP Support: HP Notebook PCs - Integrating SATA Drivers on a RIS Server for Automated Setup
http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizs.....ument.jsp?

lang=en&cc=us&objectID=c01162171&jumpid=reg_R1002_USEN

HP Support: HP Notebook PCs - How to add Serial ATA (SATA) driver to a Windows Installation
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfr.....=c00758841

HP Support: SATA Drivers Download:
HP Support: ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/softpaq/s.....p32478.exe

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Well... hope that helps, everybody!

Cheers,

Ximbalo

Posted 9 years ago
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Ximbalo
Posts: 2

Two more valuable links:

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfr.....ng=en&

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfr.....38;lang=en

Posted 9 years ago
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pratikiitd
Posts: 1

I found something very interesting for you guys as i was not able to install the dual boot configuration as i was not able to find boot.ini in the Vista drive....The following is very simple steps which will make your dual boot configuration work very well...(I will assume that you have completely installed Windows XP)

1. Run the vistabootloader as given in the tutorial.
2. Do not restart your computer.
3. Go to(i hope that at this stage you are using XP) My computer -> Tools -> Folder Options -> View Tab
4. Uncheck the Hide protected operating System files.
5. Now go to the root of your Vista drive(I suppose C: for most of you).
6. There you go....you will find three important files for which you were looking for....i.e. ntldr, ntdetect.com, boot.ini.
7. Copy these three files and paste it on to your XP root drive....
8. Restart your computer and it should work fine with both the OS working quite well...

Hope this will help you all...

Posted 9 years ago
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nd226
Posts: 1

daredevil - I was stuck where you were. But now VistaBootPro does not work properly. Every tab i click on to in vistaBootPro, it says Unhandled exception has occurred in your application... Value cannot be null. Parameter nameL item. If i press continue, it just have a loading cursor for ever.

Please can some one help.

Posted 9 years ago
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mrtwelvevolts
Posts: 1

I have the dv6736nr and installed xp pro..(vista froze alot)It took me about 4 hours to find the drivers on the net after HP live chat gave me links to all the wrong drivers....most of them i found on spanish speaking web sites????? well the machine is up and going, running faster then ever and its been a month...I can help walk you through the install and provide you with the correct drivers if needed...
P.S I dont think I ever got the web cam drivers but I never use it anyway......

Posted 9 years ago
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Atlantor
Posts: 17

mrtwelvevolts
could you give me all this drivers for this notebook ??
I have that same model and I have some problems with drivers

Posted 9 years ago
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schnake1
Posts: 2

Hi, I read your article and followed the steps but failed to install XP Pro correctly. I'm attempting this dual - boot configuration on an HP Pavillion a6123w Desktop PC that came pre - installed with Vista Home Premium. I successfully shrank my partitions, booted off the XP installation disk, but when I got to the part where XP restarts your computer, I always get a disk read error. I read the forums and figured I was missing the correct drivers for an SATA HD. My chipset is NVIDIA nForce 430 Geforce 6150SE. I downloaded these from the NVIDIA site and slipstreamed them onto a new XP install disk, tried again, still failed. I think the problem is that I put the entire driver download onto my new install disk. My question is, do I need to slipstream only certain parts of the driver download? If so, I'd really appreciate if someone could tell me which ones, I'm guessing it's in the folder labeled MCP51-->IDE-->WinXP, but I'm just not sure, can someone please help me? Thanks so much!

Posted 9 years ago
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jd2066
Posts: 3814

@schnake1: I just checked the download and it appears the folder "MCP51\IDE\WinXP\sata_ide" is the one you want. Unless you have RAID setup (if your don't know what it is then you probably don't use it) then you want "MCP51\IDE\WinXP\sataraid".

Edit: That first folder doesn't have a "txtsetup.oem" so it might not work. I'll look and see if it's needed.

Posted 9 years ago
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schnake1
Posts: 2

Thanks jd2066, i'll try that and see if it works!

Posted 9 years ago
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Atlantor
Posts: 17

I have HP dv6736nr I have problem on win XP pro
I cant do anything with volume it's all the time on max
I cant mute it nothing :/ I have drivers for sound but it dont work

Please help

Posted 9 years ago
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Lighthouse
Posts: 13598

Atlantor. Could you make a new post of this please

Posted 9 years ago
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Atlantor
Posts: 17

I have HP dv6736nr and on Windows XP pro I have problem with sound drivers
I can't do anything with the level of loudness :/
I can't turn of the sound.
Can any one help me ??

I have sound drivers instaled but it dont work right

Posted 9 years ago
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jd2066
Posts: 3814

@Atlantor: I think Lighthouse meant a new topic not post. There is a New Topic button on the forums home page.
Also here is a link to the new topic page: https://www.howtogeek.com/forum/?new=1
On the problem what do you mean by "Can't turn off the sound"? Have you tried opening the Volume Control and changing the slider for volume?

Posted 9 years ago
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Atlantor
Posts: 17

oh sory I didint understand

by "Can't turn off the sound" I mean that when I switch off it in the Volume Control there's still sound

yea I tried to changing it by the slider but it do nothing

Posted 9 years ago
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jnrussell
Posts: 14

I successfully installed XP following all the xcellent steps presented here. But since I only had allocated about 10gb of space as recommended, it quickly filled up as I loaded drivers, programs, etc. I waited until after a vacation to add vistabootpro and dual boot so I could reallocate.

I now have two problems:
1. I shrunk the vista drive (c:), and have 20.33 gb unallocated, but Vista won't give me the option to expand the XP drive (d:). How do I get the xp drive larger so it can function better?

2. I've tried every suggestion regarding the ntldr and ntdetect.com items, and xp won't load, but gives the usual errors regarding those files. I can't find them in the vista drive, even "showing hidden files"; copying them from my xp cd into the d: drive; even trying different boot drives. Nothing seems to work.

I bought this laptop the day after Christmas, finally got xp installed and working with all drivers about 3 weeks ago, and now just want to make the final tweak...

Please, any ideas would be sooooooooooo appreciated.

Thanks!

Posted 9 years ago
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Lighthouse
Posts: 13598

jnrussell, could you please put this in a new topic

Posted 9 years ago
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jd2066
Posts: 3814

@jnrussell: Try this:
Download and install VistaBootPro.
Click the "View Settings" button at the top.
Click the "Detailed" radio button.
Right click on the text box and click Select All.
Right click on the text box and click Copy.
Then paste that in a reply or a new topic (new topic would be best).
I'll look at it and see if that information looks correct.

Posted 9 years ago
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jnrussell
Posts: 14

I've set up a new topic "Vista Blues - XP Problems"

I'm leery about doing the VistaBootPro thing again, because I don't want to lose my XP again. If I must, I will, especially if that will help work it all through.

Thanks.

Posted 9 years ago
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gjbnh
Posts: 1

Thanks for an awesome tutorial. I had been looking for something like this. It was easy to follow if you have some computer back round and clear enough for a newbie. That said, I'm still having problems. After installing XP to my D: partition, it booted fine UNTIL after I Reinstalled the Vista bootloader. And like others here it complained about ntdlr not being found. However I found all the files mentioned scattered across my VISTA AND my Recovery partitions, copied them to my XP partition, and came up with a new problem. "Txtsetup.sif not found or corrupt, status 14 etc." Googling that I found LOTS of people reporting the error IF they were installing, or re-installing XP. Since I was not doing that, and it was fine before I reinstalled the VISTA bootblock, I searched my Recovery partition. found the txtsetup.sif file, copied that to XP partition hoping I was all set: but NO JOY. Any Ideas?

Posted 9 years ago
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buzzard
Posts: 7

hi great help. thanks i moved the NTDETECT file and the NTLDR one.
my OS boot manager screen looks just like i want it to, but after i click on XP it goes to another screen and seems to offer me two identical options of my windows XP home edition to click on.
A small inconvenience
Do you know what might cause this? and how i can get XP to initiate from the first screen of the boot manager?
Thanks

Posted 8 years ago
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jd2066
Posts: 3814

You probably have two entries in your boot.ini which is used by the Windows XP boot loader.
In VistaBootPro click Tools, Click Legacy Editor, remove the second entry in the notepad Window, save the file and exit notepad.
Note: You should be sure they are exactly the same line as if they are different and you remove the wrong one then you can't boot Windows XP at all.

Posted 8 years ago
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jaajavon
Posts: 2

i followed the step by step and when i go to start windows XP i DONT get a error i get black screen and i have no clue what i did wrong the vista half still works but i cant start windows cause it just a black screen

Posted 8 years ago
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cwalk
Posts: 14

&%£$ *&%$ did this topic ever help me. thanx guys, specially you surfer andjd2066!

Posted 8 years ago
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Diago
Posts: 1

Thanks guys! Awesome & very easy to follow post. Was tryin to create a dual boot (Vista & XP) on my friends laptop & this post really helped LOT! I registered just to give my word of appreciation! Keep up the Awesome work dudes!

Posted 8 years ago
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Kuyichi
Posts: 2

Hey I am just wondering one thing!?
I have a HP Pavilion dv6570 ed.
Where did you find all your xp drivers?
I mean I only find vista drivers and the xp drivers I DO find are for the quick launch
buttons.

Cause I read that if you format and install xp, you got no disc drive support and so on.

Thanks in advance!

Posted 8 years ago
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Lighthouse
Posts: 13598

Hi Kuyichi. Could you start this in a new topic please.

Posted 8 years ago
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sephinaopal
Posts: 6

I have a question. Lots of people talk about the boot.ini file and I've been having problems. How do I make VistaBootPro generate a boot.ini file for XP? I even tried making one in dos and it refuses to exist. I made it so I can see hidden system files and it's just not there.

Posted 8 years ago
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Lighthouse
Posts: 13598

sephinaopal, please could you start a New Topic with your problem.

Posted 8 years ago
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sathish04021984
Posts: 2

hi friends,
I hv sony vaio vgn-cr23g laptop preinstalled with vista home premium, now i want 2 install windows xp in my system, i read this topic nd i decided to install windows xp nd by using this information, but i hv a doubt that " Is it possible 2 install in my laptop?", so please can any help me.........My email-.....................plse give me reply about this topic...............nd onemore thing after installing " can i access all the drives(e:,f:) from my windowsxp.....................

edit by mod- no personal email addresses allowed, please start a new thread.

Posted 8 years ago
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sathish04021984
Posts: 2

hi friends,
I hv sony vaio vgn-cr23g laptop preinstalled with vista home premium, now i want 2 install windows xp in my system, i read this topic nd i decided to install windows xp nd by using this information, but i hv a doubt that " Is it possible 2 install in my laptop?", so please can any help me.........My email-.....................plse give me reply about this topic...............nd onemore thing after installing " can i access all the drives(e:,f:) from my windowsxp....................

Posted 8 years ago
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Trinity59
Posts: 4

Hi Guys!
I registered here today after finding this site while looking for dual boot possibilities. I could read here for hours! So much Input!!!
I have bought a Dell XPS M1530 with Vista pre-installed and was gathering info on how to resize my 320GB HD so I could get my Ubuntu, XP and Vista on there. But, after reading all this.....well, I'm thinking twice about it now! I would have sooooo many questions (I'm a Vista noob) that I'd possibly crash the server! *lol*.
But I'll keep looking in here and when you guys come up with an "easy" way of getting the task done, I'll be back! *rofl*

Greets, Trinity59

Posted 8 years ago
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ekstaze
Posts: 1

hi, nrv1013, on start of this topic you wrote: " So I went to the manufacturer's website (Intel) and downloaded the drivers".My question is, can you point me directly to intel drivers that can disable S-ATA? I have troubles searching them on intel site.
btw, i have same problems - just obtained vaio VGN-CR41s, no normal BIOS, no possibility to install xp and i am screwed.

Posted 8 years ago
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travixion
Posts: 1

hey, i want to do the dual boot install xp on vista machine but when i go to shrink my volume down it lets me open the menu but when i actually put the numbers in it says i only have 0 size available shrink space in MB. i made sure i have enough space. 115 gigs to be exact. anyone have any ideas or help?

Posted 8 years ago
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LH
Posts: 20002

travixion welome to HTG. Please could you post your question in a "New Topic".

Posted 8 years ago
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peapen
Posts: 3

HELP!!! I have started going through the steps to put XP on my Vista machine and when it rebooted after loading XP all I get is a black screen with a flashing cursor in the upper left corner. What now!!!!

Posted 8 years ago
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LH
Posts: 20002

Hi peapen, welcome to the forum. Could you start a "New Topic" with your problem please :)

Posted 8 years ago
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zarenya
Posts: 27

I have been battling for almost 5 hours yesterday. A friend purchased an HP Pavilion DV4 laptop with Vista Home pre-installed.
I tried everything in vain to reboot with my XP Disc. It finds the disc, loads setup files for windows but I get an error "unexpected operation, please check your drive for errors etc...."

Apparently the laptop as a drive that was partititioned into C: and D: (D drive has all the vista backup security HP Help tools). I managed to format the C Drive but it boots up with recovery software and just re-initiated the installation process of Vista.

Will it work if I format both drives and allow me to boot from DVD Drive with my XP software? Any ideas and guidance are welcomed at this stage.

Regards

Posted 7 years ago
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LH
Posts: 20002

zarenya. Could you start a New Topic with that please.

Posted 7 years ago
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maggi
Posts: 1

Where do I exactly copy the ntldr and ntdetect.com files? There is no file name ROOT on the windows xp folder.
Can anyone help please?
thanks

Posted 7 years ago
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LH
Posts: 20002

maggi welcome. Could you start a New Topic with that please.

Posted 7 years ago
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thermofax
Posts: 2

I am trying to remove Windows Vista from an Acer Aspire 5315-2153 and install Windows XP. I followed the steps but I am not able to boot to the Windows XP cd. No matter how I change it in the BIOS, it still just boots to Vista. Any ideas?

Posted 6 years ago
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vistamike
Posts: 10945

Hi thermofax, could you start a new topic please. This one is now closed

Mike

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