(Solved) - Hi, can i use ad-aware and spybot at same time ??(35 posts)
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Yes but why do all of that non-sense ??
Read this answer posted this morning.
It's all you need.
Neither AdAware nor Spybot will do much for your protection. I suggest you use MSE as AV program ( http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/ ) and SAS as scanner ( http://www.superantispyware.com/ ). Run SAS once or twice per week.
If you want to be extra protected, you could run Avast 5.0 together with MSE. They are running well together and have been tested together ( http://www.avast.com/lp-intern.....%20Branded ) All of the above are free.
Yes, MSE is antivirus. You should run only one antivirus program on your computer. MSE is the most popular antivirus program with many folks here at How to Geek. I've been happy with Avast free. In the past, AVG free was popular but the last few years, there have been a lot of complaints about it being a resource hog. If your computer has plenty of RAM, it may or may not be a problem. If your computer has limited rRAM, then it will be a problem.
Programs like AdAware, SAS, MBAM, and Spybot look for different kinds of nasties, mostly spyware. These are little programs or cookies that allow advertisers, etc., track your surfing habits so they can hit you with targeted advertising, spam, etc or snoop around on your computer for personal info. They are not a substitute for antivirus programs. However, one can run multiple antispyware programs (AdAware is one exception since often clashes with other antispyware programs) and it is adviseable to do so since each usually has slightly different spyware definitions; this increases the likelyhood that you will catch more nasties on your computer.
I disagree with whs' comment that Spybot doesn't do much. It has has a full time program called Teatimer that helps to block spyware from getting onto one's computer. Because of it, I get very few hits when I run my other antispyware programs.
Also, if you are still running XP, you need a better firewall than the one that comes with XP (I'm not familiar with Vista and Win7 but I heard their firewalls are much better). I use ZoneAlarm's free firewall on my computer and it does a lot to stop intrusions. It also stops programs from making unwanted phone calls home (this is especially beneficial if spyware does manage to get on your computer because it will stop it from transmitting any info back to its source). It's a pain in the neck when you first start to use it because you will get frequent popups asking if you want a program to transmit data from your computer. However, you can set it to always allow it to, to never allow it to, or to ask each time so, eventually, the popups become rare. Make sure you download only the free firewall: you don't need the paid version and the security suite is junk.
Another useful program is Secunia PSI. This is a free program that will notify you when programs you have need security updates and will assist you in making the required downloads. Many times, programs have programming flaws that will allow malware to get into your computer. The programmers of these programs often will update the programs to correct the flaws. Secunia PSI will alert you when you need to download these updates.
I run Avast free antivirus and MBAM (Malwarebytes AntiMalware), Spybot, Glary Utilities (does only a little to get rid of nasties but does help with keeping your computer in tune), and SAS (Super AntiSpyware) on my computer and have had no trouble from nasties getting on my computer.I run weekly scans of each (one program each weekday night). Secunia PSI will automatically run a biweekly scan and let you know if it finds anything out of date.
http://www.javacoolsoftware.co.....aster.html is a useful addition to your toolbox.
As to running multiple A/vs you can. My main AV is MSE but I also have Virgin Media Security RPS which is Kaspersky based. Disable the startup on your other av, run it in addition but not at the same time!
The VM package is quite good, but takes for ages to run a complete scan but it's good to do it once a week.
All this sounds like a pain, but the way the internet is going at the moment it's good to have another tool to fall back on
I'm certainly surprised to hear that MSE and Avast play well together. Everything I've read and heard in the past said otherwise.
However, I do have to say there is no way, ever, I will have Threatfire on my computers. I had it a while back. It worked fine for several months then stopped working. I tried to remove it to reinstall it and the darnedest time getting my computer to work right again. Once I got my machine working right again, I read that there were others that had the same problem.
I would use both SAS and Spybot. Whs, what is your problem with Spybot? The reason it doesn't seem to "find" much is because it (via Teatimer) blocks infections. By your logic, Avast, MBAM, and SAS are worthless because they almost never "find" anything either.
My problem with all that junk AV programing is that it slows a machine down horribly and if one does get a virus or spyware, they will have to re-image the system anyway as it is the fastest and easiest way to recover. :) :)
Rick, there is no slowdown any more with most AVs. I run NIS2011 and MSE on some system. Never notice them. Especially NIS is very good now. They do the scans at idle time. But you got a good point on the imaging - cannot be stressed enough.
I MANUALLY scan the machine every evening with MSE to let me know if I need to (3-5) minute [ re-image ] the system for the next day.
Win7 has its own built-in imaging feature so NO need for even free image software.
BUT others may run their systems as they wish, that's why it's called a Personal Computer. (LOL) (LOL)
Rick P. :) :)
Rick, the only slowdown I've ever noticed using the antilmalware programs I use is at bootup. Since I run my machine 24/7 and reboot only a couple times a week to clear things up (whether it needs it or not), it's not a problem. I just start or restart the machine, then go the bathroom, take a shower, fix something to eat, or whatever until it's finished booting (it takes only five minutes or less but even that seems interminal when just sitting there staring at the thing, especially since I have ADD). I run the weekday scans once a week, each one on a different day and do it while I'm in bed sleeping, watching TV, or I'm away from the house.
Yep everyone runs their own machine(s) a bit differently.
I personally prefer my nightly manual maintence schedule.
Just an old habit of mine left over from my military service.
"Take good care of your equipment and your equipment will take good care of you". :) :)
Quote: "Win7 has its own built-in imaging feature so NO need for even free image software"
Did you ever try the built-in Win7 imaging. It is a mess - no multiple images, no scheduling, no multiple partitions, a nightmare to mount the VHD files, very unreliable and you never know what it does. First thing it did is wreck 2 of my best DVDs. I was just trying it out (several times with different scenarios) but now I stay away from it.
Sorry about not answering but the LCD Flat Screen monitor went dead again in the middle of posting.
Had to reconnect back to the dual CRTs.
Win7 is no Ghost for sure BUT one can do simple Backup Image Files to other HDs and DVDs Plus one can make Restore Discs.
I've made all the "Neat" MS Technet stuff using the AIK and so forth BUT I did think it was pretty nice of MS
to include a [ simple backup imaging solution ] for all the new users of Win7.
You must remember that some Win7 New Users have NO idea of what us older folks are talking
about when we use words like WIM, imageX, etc.....
Just as in the club that you teach, sometimes providing a simple solution is better than a highly technically correct solution which no one understands or can do.
The little MS imaging program works well for its simple intended purpose I think.
I've got my work cut out for me in trying to "McGyver Repair" the 7 year old flat screen monitor
which has thousands upon thousands of operating hours on it. (LOL)
Rick P. :) ;)
Rick, I teach Macrium in my club because I do not want to have tomatos thrown at me after people got stuck with Win7 imaging - and most people I know got stuck with it one way or the other. And nothing is worth than an unreliable imaging program. That's like your retirement fund going broke after you paid into it for 45 years.
I like Macrium FINE !!!!
I use Ghost BUT have never ran into the problems with the little MS imaging program that others have experienced.
It's much like MClary tools.
Irv likes it so I started using it and Bingo, the program ripped my registry a part several days ago.
I have NO idea of what went wrong but that's the end of MClary tools with me. (LOL)
The length of the BIOS phase is a function of the amount of devices hanging off your box. The BIOS program has to go around and check them all before starting. I have 10 USB ports (including my 2 USB hubs) and when they are fully "furnished" (sticks, disks, printers, keybord) the BIOS phase takes more than 20 seconds whilst the Windows7 boot is done in 15 seconds.
I have also noticed that SSDs seem to lengthen the BIOS phase. On the 4 systems (of different makes) where I installed SSDs, I noticed the same behavior. But BIOS plus boot is still around 30 seconds which I find acceptable.
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