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  • Started 8 years ago by BobJam
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BobJam
Posts: 1052

We have learned how to insert images (well . . . Rick hasn't yet, but he's stuck on "correct" coding <grin>), but are there other "hidden" formatting talents to this board software??

I know below the posting window it says "Allowed markup: a blockquote br code em strong ul ol li img.
Put code in between

<

." (EDIT: hey, I see this "tick" stuff did something), but I've tried some of that nonsense and it doesn't work. But then maybe I've tried it "incorrectly" (to borrow the term from Rick . . . OK, too much picking on Rick, and he may be the very one to actually figure this out since he's a coding kinda' guy). So maybe that's another hidden secret of this board software.

Perhaps those seemingly useless directions aren't explicit enough.

So, my question, and my related proposal in a bit, is: Has anybody figured out how to do any formatting beyond inserting images??

And the actual image inserting "secret" has nothing to do with the board instructions, other than the fact that the letters "img" are there. But since "img" is there does that also imply that we can do bolding with "em" or "strong" if we know the secret coding this whacky software will accept?

So here's my proposal: Perhaps a sticky post with instructions of how to do other formatting code (if there is anything else besides inserting images that somebody has figured out how to do) would help. Or maybe that sticky post, titled something like "How to do formatting on posts", could have a link to a Wiki article that somebody could write. I'd say just to do the Wiki article and forget the sticky except many newbies don't browse for those things, so a Wiki article alone might not be found by too many people.

For example, I thought I saw a post somewhere here with indentation (which the "list" coding will do . . . is that the "li" referenced in the board software instructions?), but that may have been something I saw on another board.

If somebody here has figured out how to do indentation, that would go a long way toward making posts more readable and understandable if we could offset quoted material with indentation. Or maybe that "blockquote" coding the board software references will do it.

All formatting does, as far as I'm concerned, is make things more readable and understandable. So I'm not wanting any of this formatting just to make things look "pretty". Formatting actually is practical.

Of course, as I said, if there isn't any way to format beyond inserting an image, all bets are off and my proposal, in the words of Richard Nixon and the Watergate conspirators (dating myself here) is . . . "inoperative".

Thoughts anyone?

BJ

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whs
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BobJam, you are far beyond my wish list. It would already help, if people used proper English or proper any language. The loose usage of language is far more disturbing than the lack of indents. Interestingly enough, it seems to be mostly people that do NOT have English as their native language who post correctly.

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The Geek
Posts: 2059

There are a ton of problems with the formatting... I'm working on them.

I need to figure out how to fix that backtick problem.

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raphoenix
Posts: 14920

All,

Ole Rick and whs are sticklers for doing things "by the book". (LOL) (LOL).

I can fill this site with images but just want to do it the (correct) way with proper coding (if there is such a thing).

Don't worry about "picking" on Rick P.; have had plenty of "bullet holes through the wings and landed with gear-up" before (LOL) (LOL).

Best Regards,
Rick P.

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BobJam
Posts: 1052

whs,

Yes, I sometimes wonder how someone can figure out what some people are saying. Very often I'm unable to even come close to interpreting what their problem is. My first response to some posts is "Huh???" Usually those that mangle the language are the same ones that give no, or incomplete, information. In a lot of posts I often see something like "We need more information before we can help you".

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whs
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Very true. I wonder whether they are just sloppy or halfwits or both.

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Lighthouse
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The customer is always right. Except when he (or her) is wrong :)

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whs
Posts: 17584

Yes, but we are not selling anything. And for the pay we get, they could make it a little easier on us. After all, we are no mind readers.

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Bartman
Posts: 1287

Don't know if it would help, but maybe a sticky about "posting guidelines" is in order?

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whs
Posts: 17584

Bartman, there is a sticky on Forum rules. Maybe the Geek could make a mention about proper language. But then, who reads it - certainly not the type clientele we are talking about.

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raphoenix
Posts: 14920

This is always good to start off with.

COMP WONT GO CAN U PLS HEP M !!!!!!!!

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Lighthouse
Posts: 13598

Is it a full moon? or what!

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Bartman
Posts: 1287

It was the texting language, punctuation, lack of information aspect I was referring to.
But you're probably right, no one would read it. :-(

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BobJam
Posts: 1052

My original question still remains unanswered: Has anybody figured out how to do any formatting beyond inserting images??

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Scott
Posts: 5618

We could make everyone who signs up read this before their first post :o
http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375

Not likely.

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Scott
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where URL is the address and link text is what you want to refer to it as, or

LookyHereBobJam

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Lighthouse
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Scott. I've read that. How many of the regular members have? Let alone the new ones. It's still not complete tho'.

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whs
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Scott, the MS link is good. It even comes up in local languages. So there can be no misunderstanding.

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raphoenix
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@LH

EDIT:

That fixed it.

Thanks,
Rick P.

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Lighthouse
Posts: 13598

No comment at the end?

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BobJam
Posts: 1052

Hey Scott,

OK . . . it looks like if I use "li" I can insert text along with a URL.

But your source code looks like this:

I don't see any bacticks in there, it just shows as pure HTML code. So, I'm going to try it as your code shows, and with the "li" tag as your image shows:

li = LookyHereScott,

Since this board doesn't have a preview window, I'm just going to have to hit "Send Post" and see if this turns out. One question on this though . . . why the rel=nofollow tag?? That wasn't in your image. Is that something this board software inserts?

Hey Rick,

Huh???

Here's your code:

I don't see any text after the "Edit"?? And that's the way your post came out to. Did you delete something?

Fingers crossed . . .

BJ

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raphoenix
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Bob,

It ain't working.

NO Pics !!

I deleted all the front end code I grabbed as a joke and posted because it won't work without access to what I call (the back end) server protected code which is probably PHP and script. I was playing around with Lighthouse when I posted the site on the site (LOL) (LOL). Only left the huge post up for about (3)-(4) minutes and then EDITED it out.

Rick P.

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Scott
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No BobJam, I did not delete anything. I have no idea why some things work on the boards and others do not.

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ScottW
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I seem to remember being able to use some markups here at one time. Some BBcode markups worked and some HTML, but it was never consistent. I think that I just gave up trying. The BBcode IMG and CODE tags are the only thing that I use anymore. I guess the only way to find out what works is to try it. Here goes:

BBcode bold
BBcode Italics

BBcode quoted text

<b>HTML bold</b>
<i>HTML italics</i>
Emphasis?
Strong?

Ordered list

  1. First item
  2. Second item

Unordered list

  • Item one
  • Item two
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BobJam
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Hey Rick,

OK . . . I finally got the images to work. After messing around with it for some time (and Rick, I guess you popped in during one of my many failures), I got it to take. This time instead of the simple straight brackets I had used before I used the HTML coding character. It finally worked when I did that img src= coding AND used backticks. Very confusing because, as I just said, it did not work as it did before. This time it was completely different.

And, as you can see, Scott's method didn't work. Curiously, the LookyHereScott links to the Wiki here, not the Wikipedia site.

Hey Scott,

If you can take a look at my image here of the source code for that. I pretty much followed your image. Here's my coding:

Hey ScottW,

Your surmise that this thing is not consistent is correct based on my experiences. And I was curious about bolding and italics, so your experiment showed that didn't work.

Anyway, Scott the Mod, can you see where I messed up on that li thing with putting text along with a link?? I thought I did it as your graphic showed, but apparently not, or else this board software gets fickle within an hour between posts.

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BobJam
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Hey Geek,

Please don't misunderstand all my messing around here . . . I'm not "pushing" for any remedy, just experimenting to see what I can do and what other people can do. You run a fine board and this is really a minor concern. Not bashing the board at all.

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Scott
Posts: 5618

Any error in a link will point back to the main HTG page.
the 'li =' was inserted by me for emphasis.

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BobJam
Posts: 1052

Hey Scott,

I noticed you changed your avatar.

I'm pretty maxed out on coding right now, so maybe I'll try again later.

So if I leave out the li= thing it should work?? I tried so many iterations (which is why I say I'm maxed out right now), I may have tried that one, but who knows . . .

BJ

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raphoenix
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Bob,

I Agree with The Geek, Scott and ScottW.

It is the bbpress or whatever press program which is the problem and that is just the way it is.

I just got lucky ONE time and used code to pull the (My Build Picture) from my website storage folder but probably it was just a matter of timing or something. The picture is still linked in that old thread but the minute I edit it, I'll bet the picture and code will go away so I just leave it alone (LOL) (LOL).

Regards,
Rick P.

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BobJam
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Hey Rick,

Yes, I agree with those guys too, and you are correct in saying "that is just the way it is".

Nevertheless, I like messing around with this thing. I also like doing appendectomies on canaries with a dull rusty knife, so you can see where my head is at. (No, I'm just kidding about that . . . I'm not that much of a pervert).

The thing about messing around with this though . . . since it's so random, you really have to have a lot of patience. That's why I got maxed out . . . I ran out of patience.

And before you say "Get a life", I'll say it . . . I need to get a life.

BJ

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The Geek
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Note that I disabled the bbcode plugin, because that is the root of most of the problems... I'm in the process of fixing the others. The issue with lists and some other things are just that I need to add the stylesheet rules.

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BobJam
Posts: 1052

Testing

Hey Scott Looky Here

Trying to embed text in a url.

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BobJam
Posts: 1052

It finally worked . . . had to try it a few times.

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