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Forgotten HDD Password on my Samsung Netbook.

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  • Started 5 years ago by tech27
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tech27
Posts: 387

Netbook model: Samsung NP-N148-DP03PH
S/N: HJDA93AB800258F
BIOS: Phoenix SecureCore (tm) Setup Utility

So here's the problem, because I am so curious about this and I tried to put a 'HDD Password' on BIOS on my Netbook and now I mess everything I can't boot up and I am really mad at my self I'm such and idiot ;( because I created this problem and I can't use my netbook anymore. I really feel so hopeless, I tried everything like using a 'Live disk' etc, but still I can't boot because it will always ask for HDD password ;(

and when entering an Invalid password three times, this will come out, but when I restart the netbook(turning it off and on) it will again ask for the HDD password.

I really need help guys ;(

Posted 5 years ago
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Xhi
Posts: 6298

Time to purchase a new hard drive.

Posted 5 years ago
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Veegertx
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Tech27
Look here http://dogber1.blogspot.com/20.....-bios.html

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Enthusiast
Posts: 566

Have you tried booting back into BIOS and removing the HDD password? Did you put a password on the HDD and now you can't remember it?

Posted 5 years ago
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Veegertx
Posts: 376

edit. no need windows running

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Xhi
Posts: 6298

My interpretation is that this is a HDD password, not a BIOS password. From quick reading I see nowhere that has any encouraging information about an HDD password.

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Enthusiast
Posts: 566

Edit. I responded to Veegertx as the OP. Removed.

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Veegertx
Posts: 376

I edit above cause I had found the bios update but win has to be running

I know but I was thinking it related to Bios cause I never set one. Is it set in Bios or the drive itself?
http://www.ehow.com/how_537698.....sword.html

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Xhi
Posts: 6298

What would be the point of a hard drive password if it could be removed easily. The point as I understand it is no matter what computer/BIOS you put the drive om it requires the password.

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raphoenix
Posts: 14920

Probably have to put HDD in another machine using Adapter Cables and the Run Secure Erase 4 with "Hot Plugging Method to fix the HDD.

If you can Boot from USB stick, may could do it in the same machine.

Rick P.

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Veegertx
Posts: 376

Yes that what I'm reading also whs but this got me into Bios
"put a 'HDD Password' on BIOS"
There is cmospwd but does Netbook have a cd/dvd in it or create boot usb and all that. used to do that on a floppy

EDIT: Or can he simply remove battery for 5 minutes to reset bios to default, er um I had to do that myself other day messing with uefi stuff on mine and wouldn't boot. :)

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germ-x
Posts: 5310

Have you tried emailing or calling Samsung and asking them for the password?
This might take a couple of days but it might be worth a try if the above secure erasing doesn't work

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tech27
Posts: 387

uhhmm. By the way, I just wanna ask if HDD password is save under the BIOS chip or what? Because this HDD password feature is set inside BIOS, will removing battery will also reset all password in BIOS especially this HDD Password?

Yeah I tried to go to Samsung Service Center and they say its excluded from their warranty conditions and they're asking 23.30 USD, its like 1000 Pesos in Philippines.

@raphoenix
"Secure Erase 4 with "Hot Plugging Method to fix the HDD."
-its that a program ?

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tech27
Posts: 387

@Veegertx
-Hello dude, I tried that link but no luck ;( it can only generate for '12 hexadecimal digits' and mine I got '18 digits' error code ;(

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tech27
Posts: 387

@Veegertx
-Yeah 'win has to be running' and that thing won't go because their's the HDD password that blocks everytime I boot up ;(

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raphoenix
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tech27,

See my FIRST Post in this topic.
https://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/tools?replies=15

Not Sure if Secure Erase 4 can reset your HDD or not but worth a try if all else fails.

Have to boot from USB Stick and run Secure Erase Program.

The program will fail.

While still running DOS, pull out the HDD, wait for 5-10 seconds and then connect HDD back up.

Run Secure Erase program again.

If you are lucky, the procedure will break the password and erase the HDD the second time you try.

The Real procedure is to Disconnect Power to HDD briefly and leave the Data lines connected, but you can't do that with a laptop machine.

That's why I say disconnecting the complete HDD may not work??

Rick P.

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tech27
Posts: 387

@raphoenix
-' using Adapter Cables', what is the netbook HDD connector ?? and IDE or SATA?

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raphoenix
Posts: 14920

I assume the netbook has some kind of Combined Sata Data and Power Connector which mates with HDD.

Have to see a picture or diagram of HDD connection to netbook motherboard.

The Procedure I explained is really for Big Machines and HDDs with Standard Sata Connections.

Rick P.

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raphoenix
Posts: 14920

You could start down this route.

http://hddguru.com/software/2005.10.02-MHDD/

Rick P.

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Veegertx
Posts: 376

Closest thing I could find http://www.samsung.com/ph/supp.....-downloads
If you set a password for a hard disk drive, it cannot be accessed from another computer.

You have to set a supervisor password first so whats the password to HD?

Remove the cmos battery and let it sit for 5 minutes to see if that will get you through otherwise You could buy a new bios chip for it and they not too high priced.

or you can use it for a boat anchor :)

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raphoenix
Posts: 14920

Oh, I think the HDD can be fixed, just has to be put on another machine and worked on
with Low Level or Firmware utilities is all.

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tech27
Posts: 387

@raphoenix
-what is 'Low Level or Firmware utilities' ??? Sorry I'm really not good in this matter.

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tech27
Posts: 387

So guys, will resetting(getting the cmos battery) the BIOS will also reset the 'HDD Password' ???

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tech27
Posts: 387

@raphoenix
"You could start down this route.
http://hddguru.com/software/2005.10.02-MHDD/"

I don't think I can boot that using a bootable USB, coz I already tried a Live disk but when I boot up then it will ask the HDD password first ;(

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tech27
Posts: 387

I just wanna ask if whats the name of that 'adapter' ? that converts the connector of my HDD to USB so that I can hook it up on my PC.

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tech27
Posts: 387

@raphoenix
"See my FIRST Post in this topic.
https://www.howtogeek.com/forum.....replies=15"

What does is do ? Convert to be a floppy drive ? so when my compute boots up while using USB as a bootable drive then my netbook will treat it as a floppy drive ?

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G41M
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I think HDD password is in the HDD itself, in its EEPROM to be more specific. So even clearing/flashing the BIOS would not reset the HDD password. By setting a HDD password, data on them are protected since it can not be accessed from another computer without the password. If your saying that when tinkering with the BIOS setup, you set a HDD password. To clear/deactivate the hdd password, just enter BIOS setup (Press F2 key when the Samsung logo appears). Note that you must enter the supervisor password to enter the setup. This is always needed when setting or deactivating hdd password as sort of protection.
From the "Security Menu", you can clear the hdd password.

Posted 5 years ago
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Lighthouse
Posts: 13598

tech,
http://www.digitus.info/en/pro.....a-70148-1/

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tech27
Posts: 387

@G41M
-So basically 'buying' a new HDD will solve this problem or what ?

-Yeah I have the supervisor password, as what stated in the manual also, but when deactivating the 'HDD Password' it will need the current 'HDD Password' so eventhough I know the Supervisor password, still I can't reset or disable the 'HDD Password' because I need to enter the current 'HDD password' to be able to clear it.

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tech27
Posts: 387

@Lighthouse
-I can't see the price ;|

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Lighthouse
Posts: 13598

Look on Amazon. I paid EU€20.

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G41M
Posts: 902

In BIOS setup try clearing your supervisor password, this will also clear your user password if you set one. Then set to disable "Password on boot" if it is not greyed out.

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Mritsurgeon
Posts: 75

According to this blog , after entering the password 3 times wrong it should give a 16 character hexidecimal code , where you then enter SAMSUNG as a master password . Might work who knows.

http://hpgl.blog.ru/10147171.html

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tech27
Posts: 387

@Mritsurgeon
-thanks for that but 'no luck' it didn't work ;(

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tech27
Posts: 387

@G41M

-Here is the security tab looks like inside my BIOS. As you can see I set up a 'Supervisor Password' so that I could edit/reset/disable the 'HDD Password'

But when I try to reset/disable the 'HDD Password' it will ask first for the Current password, which I forgot ;(

And eventhough I tried to remove the 'Supervisor Password' still the 'HDD Password' is there and cannot be disable ;(

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Mritsurgeon
Posts: 75

Vendor Hash Encoding Example of Hash Code/Serial Scripts
Compaq 5 decimal digits 12345 pwgen-5dec.py
Windows binary
Dell serial number 1234567-595B
1234567-D35B
1234567-2A7B
Windows binary&source
Fujitsu-Siemens 5 decimal digits 12345 pwgen-5dec.py
Windows binary
Fujitsu-Siemens 8 hexadecimal digits DEADBEEF pwgen-fsi-hex.py
Windows binary
Fujitsu-Siemens 5x4 hexadecimal digits AAAA-BBBB-CCCC-DEAD-BEEF pwgen-fsi-hex.py
Windows binary
Fujitsu-Siemens 5x4 decimal digits 1234-4321-1234-4321-1234 pwgen-fsi-5x4dec.py
Windows binary
Hewlett-Packard 5 decimal digits 12345 pwgen-5dec.py
Windows binary
Hewlett-Packard/Compaq Netbooks 10 characters CNU1234ABC pwgen-hpmini.py
Windows binary
Insyde H20 (generic) 8 decimal digits 03133610 pwgen-insyde.py
Windows binary
Phoenix (generic) 5 decimal digits 12345 pwgen-5dec.py
Windows binary
Sony 7 digit serial number 1234567 pwgen-sony-serial.py
Windows binary
Samsung 12 hexadecimal digits 07088120410C0000 pwgen-samsung.py
Windows binary

Вячеслав Бачериков has also converted scripts to javascript so you can calculate the passwords with your browser: http://bios-pw.org.ua/ (sources).

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tech27
Posts: 387

@Mritsurgeon

-Already try that one dude and also didn't work, because it can only generate for 'Samsung 12 hexadecimal digits' which is 14 characters and mine is 16 characters ;(

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Mritsurgeon
Posts: 75

Looks like u have a real problem man

Doubt any1 of these will work either

For Award BIOS’ try these backdoor passwords:

AWARD_SW
j262
HLT
SER
SKY_FOX
BIOSTAR
ALFAROME
Lkwpeter
j256
AWARD?SW
LKWPETER
syxz
ALLy
589589
589721
awkward
CONCAT
d8on
CONDO
j64
szyx

 
For AMI BIOS’ try these backdoor passwords:

AMI
BIOS
PASSWORD
HEWITT RAND
AMI?SW
AMI_SW
LKWPETER
A.M.I.
CONDO

 
For PHOENIX BIOS’ try this backdoor password:

phoenix

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Mritsurgeon
Posts: 75

Continued

List of hard disk ata master passwords

SEAGATE -> “Seagate” +25 spaces

MAXTOR
series N40P -> “Maxtor INIT SECURITY TEST STEP ” +1 or +2 spaces
series N40P -> “Maxtor INIT SECURITY TEST STEP F”
series 541DX -> “Maxtor” +24 spaces
series Athena (D541X model 2B) and diamondmax80 -> “Maxtor”

WESTERN DIGITAL -> “WDCWDCWDCWDCWDCWDCWDCWDCWDCWDCWD”

FUJITSU -> 32 spaces

SAMSUNG -> “ttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt” (32 times t)

IBM
series DTTA -> “CED79IJUFNATIT” +18 spaces
series DJNA -> “VON89IJUFSUNAJ” +18 spaces
series DPTA -> “VON89IJUFSUNAJ” +18 spaces
series DTLA -> “RAM00IJUFOTSELET” +16 spaces
series DADA-26480 (6,4gb) -> “BEF89IJUF__AIDACA” +15 spaces

HITACHI series DK23AA, DK23BA and DK23CA -> 32 spaces

TOSHIBA -> 32 spaces

For xbox hdds try “XBOXSCENE” or “TEAMASSEMBLY” too

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tech27
Posts: 387

my BIOS: Phoenix SecureCore (tm) Setup Utility.
BIOS version: 01GU
MICOM Version: 01GU

my HDD: Samsung HM321HI-(S1)

Posted 5 years ago
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tech27
Posts: 387

@Mritsurgeon
-Hello dude first thing I would like to thank you for providing those information I really appreciate it.
but I tried 'SAMSUNG -> “ttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt” (32 times t)' but still Invalid password, because password is only '8 characters' or 8 digit. When I surpass 8 digits my netbook produce a 'beeps' when proceeding up to 32 times (which I really tried) but still no luck ;( also the 'phoenix' backdoor password didn't work ;(

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GuiltySpark
Posts: 4024

Tech27 ,

Also try these phoenix passwords - PHOENIX , CMOS , BIOS .

All in capitals.

Edit : you can also try these links (not sure how safe they are) :

Http://web.archive.org/web/200.....e-toolkit/

www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/CmosPwd

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Mritsurgeon
Posts: 75

@ tech27 sorry dude but then I don't know. Can't you phone samsung support.

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tech27
Posts: 387

@Mritsurgeon
- Yeah dude I did go to there Service center and they charge for fixing this problem and I don't have that kind of money because I'm just a student still can't earn a cent ;(

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tech27
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@Mritsurgeon
- and also I'm kinda bit hesitant because they charge just by inspecting/fixing (opening the netbook) but what if they will recommend buying new HDD then the money that I paid by just opening will be useless ;(

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Mritsurgeon
Posts: 75

I wonder if you can't get the info you need in a samsung Hardware Maintanance Manual , google "Samsung NP-N148-DP03PH HMM" take the PDF link

Might have what you looking for

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raphoenix
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I still think if you can connect the HD to another Machine, you can Fix the HD.

http://destructdata.com/blog/?page_id=27

ADDED: The Bios may be an issue also as the Boot Block needs to erased as well as the chip reflashed.

There may be a second security chip on the device - don't know.

Anyone who plays around with Bios Passwords, Finger Print Readers and such with
new Mobile Devices is Just asking for trouble.

Rick P.

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tech27
Posts: 387

@Mritsurgeon
-Yeah dude I had read the Manual regarding this issue but still as what I said earlier on my post that 'it needs the current HDD password' to disable it.

@raphoenix
-Yeah, I'm the most stupid person on this planet, should never done this ;( ;( ;(

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tech27
Posts: 387

I just want to bring my netbook to its normal condition, I don't care if the files inside my HDD will be erase. I just want to make it working as what its doing before I messed my bios ;( I hope you can help me with this guys.

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tech27
Posts: 387

Here's whats stated on the manual:

-So 'BUYING' a new HDD for my netbook will solve this problem ??? I really need your recommendation guys before dashing things ;(

HDD: Samsung HM321HI-(SI)

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Xhi
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See my comment at reply #1 this thread!!!

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tech27
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@Xhi

Sorry sir, I just wanna ask you if you have experienced or encounter this problem before ???

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Xhi
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I have seen the warnings like you just posted. I have seen other threads which said the same thing. I believed them when I read them. I have researched and found nowhere where it said there was a way to defeat the disk password. I think many who replied here assumed you were talking about a BIOS password which is a completely different thing. Those can at times be defeated.

You may be able to remove it and attach it to another computer and do a low level formatting on it doing the things that raphoenix and others have recommended, but you seem unwilling/unable to do that. Although, I personally think that it probably will not work it is definitely worth a try.

But, logically thinking, what would be it's purpose if it could be easily defeated or defeated at all.

By buying a new disk and setting up your computer to work again you could still play with this disk as much as you like and if it ever got fixed you would have a nice external for backups.

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tech27
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@Xhi

Ok sir, thanks for that, I will find a computer store here who sale this kind of HDD.

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tech27
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Also sir I haven't tried what raphoenix suggests because I don't have a 'IDE/SATA to usb cable adapter' to attach my netbook HDD to my PC.

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tech27
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Here's my HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/.....6822152208

and it's 'Out of Stock' ;(

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Xhi
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In that case, I guess my opinion is even more valid. Since I am absolutely convinced that you can not even hope to fix it without the necessary tools.

Lesson to be learned: If you can not afford to fix it, don't break it.

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tech27
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Yeah sir, I'm afraid to open this netbook because I might create more damage by tinkering it ;(

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G41M
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If it is only the HDD that incapacitated your netbook because of the hdd password, for sure replacing the drive would solve your problem. Just be careful that when you replace the hddd make sure all your other security options in BIOS are cleared such as supervisor password, etc, as some systems would remember having passwords on the system and might mess the operation. As for for password protected drive, IMHO if you do not remember the password you put on the hdd and is not willing to pay the manufacturer for the master password, forget about the drive, it would not be worth the time and effort cracking this yourself as this would entail expensive equipments and softwares . Also, there maybe some people who would have some knowledge how to unlock these drive but would not divulge in public because they are bound company confidentiality.

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Lighthouse
Posts: 13598

Drive, in a netbook ? Are you sure ? It's normally just chips on the MB.

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Xhi
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Oh, Oh new netbook time?

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raphoenix
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A HDD Password is normally called a BIOS Freeze Lock.

Secure Erase 4 "Hot Plugging" method I use to Reset SSDs (may apply) here also.
This is the method no one uses but me on HTG. (LOL)
It does work on HDDs / SSDs that one can get to to perform the procedure #3 as described.
http://www.computerhope.com/fo.....ic=87246.0

However this is NOT the real procedure as must be accomplished using a USB Boot Device.
See my FIRST post under Tools Topic.
https://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/tools?replies=15

Rick P.

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G41M
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The specs says HDD 320GB S-ATAⅡ Hard Drive (5,400RPM).@ Rick great tools. But "Hot plugging" is a bit dangerous for non-ssd drive specially on a laptop/netbook where power and signal connected/disconnected simultaneously . In my opinion (but not 100% sure about this) is that even if the bios lock is bypassed, the hdd would still be locked since the hdd controller, if it determines the drive is in a locked state, would only allow commands such as unlock (allows the computer to input the unlock password to the drive), probably identify (allows the computer to determine drive type, chs/lba settings) and would only allow secure erase after the correct password is supplied.

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raphoenix
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G41M,

Secure Erase 4 with "hot plugging" may not work but right now the OP has nothing with the pass worded HDD
so ANY PROPOSED SOLUTION is worth a try.

Rick P.

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warlock
Posts: 4100

http://www.hddunlock.com/ Read through this and it is not free. Did anyone here ever try it or is it a scam?

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tech27
Posts: 387

@warlock
-I downloaded the 'hddunlock' but it requires the OS to be running and in my case I cannot boot up because it will ask first for the HDD password after BIOS post test.

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tech27
Posts: 387

@G41M

-So first thing to do is RESETTING the bios before replacing a new HDD on my nebook ?
because the only password protected is my HDD.

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tech27
Posts: 387

Ok I recently discovered this option on the 'Boot priority tab' which can make a device to enable/disable. So I tried disabling the main HDD which contains the password.


Then I use a bootable USB (MS-DOS) using :http://www.bay-wolf.com/usbmemstick.htm as what raphoenix suggested. I successfully boot on it but I have no Idea what to do next, never use DOS before ;(

I have no Idea what to do next, never use DOS before ;(

Then after that I hastily created a Live Linux OS using my USB.

But it can only detect the USB which contain the Live Linux, because the main HDD is disabled in the bios.

But I then tried to install it and then there's my HDD.

But it says, 'Unrecognized disk label.

I also tried Gparted.

I tried to FORMAT it but this error occured.

I also even tried to use 'Windows XP' but the main HDD is inaccessible ;(

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raphoenix
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Boot Priorty has to be USB Stick FIRST

The HDD must be Enabled

IDE Mode should be Enabled

This must be on the USB stick
http://cmrr.ucsd.edu/people/Hu.....rase.shtml

Boot from USB

Do Dir <Enter>

Run HDD4eras~1, it will fail

While Dos is still running

Remove the HDD and count to 10

Insert HDD

Run HDD4eras~1 again

Play with method.

Rick P.

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tech27
Posts: 387

@raphoenix

-How do I put that 'HDD4erase' on the USB stick to make it bootable ? what method or steps should I use or do ?

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Hermitt
Posts: 1310

tech27, have you tried this??.....
http://www.hddunlock.com/

Jim

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tech27
Posts: 387

@Hermitt

-Yeah sir, but windows should be running to run the application and in my case is isn't because when booting (after BIOS splash) a HDD password must be inputted before accessing the OS ;(

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Hermitt
Posts: 1310

Read this:

How can I run HDD Unlock Wizard if I cannot boot my PC/laptop with the locked drive?
HDD Unlock Wizard requires a fully functional operating system; therefore you would have to remove the hard drive off from the non-functioning PC and attach it to any working PC as a secondary drive.

Please also see the next two articles.

Can I unlock a USB/FireWire hard drive? Can I use a USB adapter to unlock my hard drive?
HDD Unlock Wizard requires direct access to the hard drive; it is impossible to unlock a hard drive via USB or FireWire adapter or enclosure. You would have to remove the hard drive out of the enclosure and attach it to any working PC as a secondary drive.

How should I attach a locked hard drive so that HDD Unlock Wizard will recognize it properly?
For Serial-ATA drives, you can just attach the drive to any SATA port, and HDD Unlock Wizard should work just fine.

IDE drives might need some additional steps.

First of all, please switch the drive into Master mode, which can be done by switching jumpers. There are different settings for different HDD manufacturers, and usually you can locate this information on the HDD (on the main sticker). Please note that for WD drives you have to remove all jumpers from the drive.

Second, attach the drive to a dedicated IDE cable. By dedicated we mean that there must be no other devices attached to the same IDE cable, such as: CD/DVD-ROM, other HDD, etc. If your system has only one IDE port, and you'd like to boot from an IDE drive, this might be a problem. In this case you have to boot from a S-ATA drive or use additional PCI IDE controller for your boot drive.

Jim

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Hermitt
Posts: 1310

@ Warlock - Sorry, I just reread this entire thread and noticed you had already posted the link for hdd unlock. :)
@ tech27 - You must connect the netbook hdd to a different PC with a running OS then run hddunlock on it..

Jim

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raphoenix
Posts: 14920

Using the computer you are now on.

Just download the HDDEraseWeb.zip

Unzip it and move it to the USB Boot Stick that you are using now.

It's just a program you run in Dos after the Stick boots your machine up into DOS.

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Xhi
Posts: 6298

This netbook has a 320GB S-ATAⅡ Hard Drive (5,400RPM) according to Samsung NP-N148 Netbook so apparently it can be removed and attached to another computer. This is what must be done if you have any hope of solving this. The sooner you do it and report back the results the better we can help further.

There is apparently no way to do it free. You are going to have to bite the bullet and spend some money one way or the other.

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minigeek
Posts: 353

Just a quick point, it might be worth asking on the Buy & Sell forum for a old laptop HDD. I expect someone has one they would give you for a reasonable price, possibly even free! Also, now would be a good time to add a ssd if you can afford it, as you're gonna have to spend some money anyway.

But try Rick's method first.

MiniGeek

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tech27
Posts: 387

@Hermitt & @Xhi

-is it okay if I use a
'SATA to USB cable adapter'

when connecting the 'Netbook HDD' on my pc ???

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tech27
Posts: 387

@minigeek

-hmmm.. can you suggest some known good 'Buy & Sell' forums, might be an option.

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Xhi
Posts: 6298

If you are going to use the Hdd Unlock recommended by hermit above it says...

Note: HDD Unlock Wizard does not support external USB and FireWire enclosures. Please attach drives directly to the motherboard. For more information, please refer to our FAQ page.

Not sure about Rick's recommendation. But, with his I'm not sure that normal software will recognize the drive at all since it is locked. The HDD Unlock Wizzard appears to circumvent normal access.

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tech27
Posts: 387

@Hermitt

'Can I unlock a USB/FireWire hard drive? Can I use a USB adapter to unlock my hard drive?
HDD Unlock Wizard requires direct access to the hard drive; it is impossible to unlock a hard drive via USB or FireWire adapter or enclosure. You would have to remove the hard drive out of the enclosure and attach it to any working PC as a secondary drive.'

-I'm kinda bit confuse, what are you referring to ? do you refer to a 'Portable/External hard drive' ?

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Xhi
Posts: 6298

The quote is from HDD Unlock.

it is impossible to unlock a hard drive via USB or FireWire adapter or enclosure.

It means what it says! You have to hook it up directly to the motherboard and not a USB/Firewire port.

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tech27
Posts: 387

@Xhi

-Ohhh my. So is my 'Netbook HDD' compatible with the SATA power and data connector on my pc ? Sata Power connector on a regular Power supply ? and regular SATA data cable ?

Like this ? :
Sata power

I'm sorry for being so noob ;(

SATA data cable

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raphoenix
Posts: 14920

Have to Create this memory stick:
http://www.bay-wolf.com/usbmemstick.htm

ADD both programs if you want to the memory stick.

Setup the Machine Bios to Boot from USB.

Insert the memory stick into the computer and Reboot.

The machine will reboot and be running in DOS 98 on the memory stick.

Type in DIR <tap enter Key> to see the name of the programs.

To run a program, type in its name and tap Enter Key.

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Hermitt
Posts: 1310

I'm going to bed. Goodnight all. :(

Jim

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warlock
Posts: 4100

HDD Unlock Wizard works only on 32-bit Windows operating systems. You will also need administrator privileges to run the program. This is from the faqs of the link I asked about earlier.

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tech27
Posts: 387

@warlock

-Ok, thats fine with me ;>

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tech27
Posts: 387

@warlock

-I thinks my drive isn't supported ;( but then I'll try for sure. HDD: Samsung HM321HI-(SI)

Note: HDD Unlock Wizard may support more drives than listed here. Please run HDD Unlock Wizard to find out whether your drive is supported — it's free and takes seconds!

SpinPoint T Series
HD501LJ
HD500LJ
HD401LJ
HD400LJ
HD400LD
HD321KJ
HD320KJ
HD320LJ
HD320LD
HD301LJ
HD300LJ
HD300LD
HD250KD
HD160HJ
HD080GJ

SpinPoint S Series
HD161HJ
HD081GJ
HD082GJ

SpinPoint N Series
HS040HB
HS030GB
HS060HB

SpinPoint M Series
HM250JI
HM121HI
HM080GI
HM160HI
HM061GI
HM160JI
HM160JC
HM120JC
HM120II
HM120IC
HM100JI
HM100JC
HM080JI
HM080HC
MP0804H
HM060II
HM060HI
HM060HC
MP0603H
HM040HI
HM040HC
MP0402H
HM080HI
HM041HI
HM120JI

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raphoenix
Posts: 14920

This is Sequence:

Boot to Bios Screen

Set Bios for IDE Mode if possible

Set Bios to Boot From USB Device

Insert USB Stick and Reboot into DOS

Do DIR command to see programs

Run HDD4era~1 Program

Program will fail because of Bios Freeze

DO NOT REBOOT OR Turn off Machine

Pull out HDD and count to 10

Insert HDD (Hot Plug)

Run HDD4era~1 Program Again

Follow Screen Instructions

This Time HDD may erase if you are very very lucky

Tell us what happens.

Rick P.

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tech27
Posts: 387

@raphoenix

-Sir thanks for that guide, but I'm kinda bit hesitant to do that because I might create a big problem like damaging the motherboard or other components and the 'Pull out HDD and count to 10 and Insert HDD (Hot Plug)' is it safe to unplug/plug the HDD while the netbook is running ? (T__T)

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Xhi
Posts: 6298

OK. If you do not feel qualified to do the things we recommend we are wasting our time. You need to take it to someone in your area that is qualified and let them fix it. raphoenix has given you several things to do with the most specific instructions. I do not believe you have done any of them. He would not give you instructions that will damage your computer any further than you have already damaged it.

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tech27
Posts: 387

@Xhi

-Nope sir, I did tried some suggested method given by raphoenix, like http://www.bay-wolf.com/usbmemstick.htm and other DOS utilities and still I cannot FORMAT the netbook HDD.

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tech27
Posts: 387

Maybe my other option is buy an 'External/Portable HDD' to install my OS their, is it okay to use that as an OS installation directory ? does it corresponds to problems? or is their an disadvantage/cons when using an 'External/Portable HDD' as an OS installation directory ????

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hArLtRoN
Posts: 766

@tech27,
Not trying to start something, but raphoenix gives very good instructions and help. He has helped me multiple times. Nothing went wrong any of the times he helped me. One of the times I was installing Windows 7 on a hard drive with bad sectors. His instructions worked perfectly and the computer functioned for another 3 weeks until I replaced the hard drive. raphoenix is very knowledgeable!

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tech27
Posts: 387

@hArLtRoN

-Yeah I know dude, most of you here are very knowledgeable and me is a newbie and very hesitant/confuse on doing this method because never opened a Laptop/Netbook before I'm just afraid to damage more, but then I try to get the HDD and put it on another computer.

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tech27
Posts: 387

I tried another DOS utility called: mhdd32ver4.6

I used the command 'unlock' here:

List of commands of this utility.

I also even tried to use 'fasterase' command but still it needs a password.

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Mritsurgeon
Posts: 75

There is boot cd that will remove your bios & hdd password , I'm not allowed to refer to it on this forum, drop me a mail & I'll send u a download link & YouTube vid showing you how.

Edit by mod; please don't post email addresses. I will send it on for you. (Mike)

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tech27
Posts: 387

@Mritsurgeon

-Thanks for sending me the link sir, but still didn't do the trick to fix my problem because the tool can only REMOVE/RESET BIOS/CMOS password and not for HDD passwords ;(

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tech27
Posts: 387

Maybe this could be my second option, is it okay to use an : 'External HDD' as an OS installation directory ? does it corresponds to any problems? or is their any disadvantage/cons when using an 'External HDD' as an OS installation directory/storage (Where I install my OS) ????'External HDD'

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anikhamud
Posts: 2

Did you find solution for this already? You can try removing the cmos battery for 10 to 20 min including AC adapter also your netbook battery then access BIOS setup and press f9 to put the default setting try doing this without the hdd also.

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anikhamud
Posts: 2

I had a client before with the same problem the difference is just my clients laptop has a password on the bios so i cant access even the BIOS,try that it may help you.

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warlock
Posts: 4100

@anikhamud, Don't hold your breath for a reply this thread is 3 months old.

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GuiltySpark
Posts: 4024

That trick doesn't work on a Netbook anyway.

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