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tsmith777
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I just did a clean install using my XP CD my XPS720, all went well except now I cannot get on the Internet, I checked the internet connections and it says 1394 connection, connected 1394 Adapter. I have tried using the internet connection wizard and the did not work. Any help would be appreciated.

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raphoenix
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Did you install all the machine Device Drivers for your particular machine ??
http://ftp.dell.com/Browse_For.....0%20Black/

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tsmith777
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I don't know, I cannot get online to check your link or Dell

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raphoenix
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Is this your machine ??
http://www.dell.com/support/dr.....ct/xps-720

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tsmith777
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yes, Rick except it is silver and not black

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raphoenix
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I'm going to GUESS the color makes no difference.

Download the Networking Drivers from the Link I gave you and transfer them to A floppy or USB stick.
(May have to be Burned to a CD if methods above are not available)

Install the Lan Driver and connect machine to the router with a Lan Cable.

See if the machine will connect.

You should have NEVER done a Clean Install without being prepared and having a good working knowledge of your machine beforehand. :)

As you go through the Links I provided, you will see that many drivers and firmware updates depend on updating the Bios Revision Level.

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tsmith777
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The reason I did a clean install is this computer failed completely and I thought the motherboard or hard drive had failed completely, it sat for several months until today and a I realized I had made recovery disks way back in August, so I ran that and it worked so I decided to do a clean install so I would have a functioning xp machine along with my win7 Dell 8500. It seams to me that connecting to the Internet should be pretty simple, but obviously I am wrong again. I checked services and all the internet stuff has started so thats not the problem

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raphoenix
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If the Recovery Disc was an image of the HDD and worked, then the system would have all the necessary machine device drivers needed for the hardware.

Will the Recovery Disc still boot and install the old HDD image over the clean install ??

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tsmith777
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I don't know, how do I do that? There are 4 recovery disks

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tsmith777
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I'll have to continue this tomorrow, I have to leave now, see ya later

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raphoenix
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Set Bios to boot from CDrom first.

Put disc #1 in CD Tray and reboot the machine.

Press [ any key if ask ] or just see what happens.

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tsmith777
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Ok, I am going to do the recovery again, after that completes, I will have to reinstall Windows, so I should do the upgrade and not the clean install, correct?

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raphoenix
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Do the recovery first and see if it works.

Then we'll decide what the next step should be.

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tsmith777
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Ok, Thanks

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tsmith777
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I have the #1 recovery disk in and it says, your computer is about to be restored. All data currently on your computer will be deleted and repalced with your selected Full System BACKUP. Only the C: partition will be affected, other partitions will no be impacted. If an emergency File & Folder backup was created, it will be saved inb the location you selected. Should I select Yes, continue or No?

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raphoenix
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Select Yes and Continue.

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tsmith777
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Ok, its formatting now

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raphoenix
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Ok, just follow directions as they come up on the screen.

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tsmith777
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Ok, recovery is complete and it said restart then a black screen came up and said NTLDR is missing, press ctrl+Alt+Del to restart

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tsmith777
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I pressed Ctrl+Alt+Del and it came up with the same message NTLDR is missing, press ctrl+Alt+Del to restart

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raphoenix
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Reference is from:
http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000465.htm

1.Insert the Windows XP bootable CD into the computer and boot the system.

2.When prompted to press any key to boot from the CD, press any key.

3.Once in the Windows XP setup menu press the "R" key to repair Windows.

4.Log into your Windows installation by pressing the "1" key and pressing enter.

5.You will then be prompted for your administrator password, enter that password.

6.Copy the below two files to the root directory of the primary hard drive. In the below example we are copying these files from the CD-ROM drive letter, which in this case is "e." This letter may be different on your computer.

copy e:\i386\ntldr c:\
copy e:\i386\ntdetect.com c:\

7.Once both of these files have been successfully copied, remove the CD from the computer and reboot.

Another Reference:
http://www.ehow.com/how_480486.....ssing.html

1. Locate your Windows XP/2000 installation disc and place it in your CD/DVD ROM drive. If you don't have this disk, then you cannot proceed further.

2. Restart your computer.

3. When the computer restarts press any key on your keyboard when you are prompted, "Press any key to enter setup." Most computers are configured to boot to another device other than a hard drive. Since the Windows XP/2000 installation disk is bootable, you should see the prompt. However, if you don't see the prompt you may need to change your boot priority in your BIOS. To do so, enter the system BIOS by following the onscreen instructions upon startup. Then navigate to the Boot Priority menu and modify another device, such as a CD-ROM to boot prior to the hard drive. Then reboot your computer.

4. After you have pressed any key, the Windows XP/2000 setup screen will appear. After loading, press the "R" key to repair the Windows installation. The screen will appear black. The computer requests which installation you would like to log in. Generally speaking, press "1" and "Enter." If you have more than one hard drive or more than one partition, the procedure may be different. You must know which hard drive or partition your Windows operating system is installed in. You are subsequently prompted for a password. If you haven't set up one up, you can just leave the query blank and press "Enter." The phrase "c:\WINDOWS>" and a blinking cursor subsequently appear.

5. Type "copy d:\i386\ntldr c:\windows" (without quotes), where "D" is the letter of your CD/DVD ROM drive (your optical drive may be different, especially if you have more than one). Eject the CD from the drive and type "Exit" (without quotes) to restart your computer. The NTLDR file will be copied from the installation disc to your hard drive.

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tsmith777
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When I get to enter password, it will not accept my password that I use for everything

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tsmith777
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When I set up this computer I did not enter an administrator password

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raphoenix
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Then leave the Password Blank and press Enter Key.

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tsmith777
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When I leave it blank it says password is not valid, I do that three times and it says an invalid password has been entered 3 times, to restart your computer press enter. It does that with no password or my password that I use all the time.

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raphoenix
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Without the correct password, we are pretty well stuck.

It should be the password which you were using back in Aug when you made the backup.

Back then, did you have the Real Administrator Account Enabled ??

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tsmith777
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Back in August I was using the same password I always use but I know I did not password protect the backup or the recovery. There would be nor reason for me to do that. As far as the real administrator account enabled, i don't even know what that is.

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tsmith777
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I am at the screen now that has three options, set up windows now, press enter, to repair a windows xp installation using recovery console press r, and to quit press f3. Can I try setting up windows XP now?

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raphoenix
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If you setup the PC over the top of the existing installation, you will need the drivers as you did last night.

http://pcsupport.about.com/od/.....covery.htm
Make Ophcrack and get the password.

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tsmith777
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I am wondering when I did the backup in august was the operating system backed up along with windows XP installation?

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raphoenix
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Did you have Two partitions on the hard drive ??

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tsmith777
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I think I did, and when I selected 1 during the repair , thats when I got the password problem, so I did it again and selected 2 instead of 1 and it said not valid, so I don't know

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tsmith777
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I am using my Laptop, with win 7 a toshiba now, can I get ophcrack on this computer and use it on the XP machine?

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raphoenix
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Reference Site:
http://pcsupport.about.com/od/.....covery.htm

You should be able to download Ophcrack and make a Bootable CD to run on the XP machine.

The Ophcrack Windows password cracker is by far the best free Windows password recovery tool available. It's fast and easy enough for a first time Windows password cracker with a basic knowledge of Windows.

With Ophcrack, you don't need any access to Windows to be able to recover your lost passwords. Simply visit the site, download the free ISO image, burn it to a CD and boot from the CD. The Ophcrack program starts, locates the Windows user accounts, and proceeds to recover (crack) the passwords - all automatically.

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tsmith777
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Ok, I'll do that right now, Thanks

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tsmith777
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Ok, I have the Ophcrack downloaded and on my desktop. I also have ImgBurn on my desktop, do I run Ophcrack first or burn it to ImgBurn first? Do I just drag the Ophcrack icon to ImgBurn if so which do I select on ImgBurn, Write Image file to disc, write files/folders to disc, create image file from disc or create image file from files/folders. sorry, I just want to get this correct

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raphoenix
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Burning an ISO Image
Follow this tutorial.
http://neosmart.net/wiki/displ.....th+ImgBurn

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tsmith777
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Rick, I followed the tutorial and it said to select write image file to disc and then use the browse function, I did that and selected desktop because thats where ophcrack is, but ophcrack does not appear under desktop in ImgBurn, what I doing wrong?

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GuiltySpark
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raphoenix
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Browse in the Download Folder.

Reboot your machine and browse some more.

THANKS !!! GS :) :)

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tsmith777
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GS, It does say Desktop and All supported files, but file name is blank

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tsmith777
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Rick, the download file is empty, I will restart now

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tsmith777
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After restart ophcrack is still not listed under desktop in ImgBurn.

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GuiltySpark
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tsmith777
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My Ophcrack says Oph win32 Installer 3.4.0 I have not ran the installer yet, I guess I have to do that, right?

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GuiltySpark
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Double click it.

I think it needs to be unpacked first.

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tsmith777
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Ok

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tsmith777
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When I ran it I got an error Http/1.1.4 not found, I clicked ok and it completed and said it has been installed and I now have the desktop icon like yours, I checked ImgBuran again and Ophcrack is still not in the desktop in IngBurn.

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raphoenix
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WRONG WRONG !!!!

Download OPHcrack Live CD for XP
http://pcsupport.about.com/gi/.....forge.net/

It will be an ISO file !!

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tsmith777
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Ok, it is downloading now, do I run it after it after downloads?

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tsmith777
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When I click on the icon to run it, the Toshiba burning software opened up and wants me to insert a cd/dvd so i cannot use ImgBurn apparently. and the correct iso image of ophcrack is there

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GuiltySpark
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If you right click the ISO file you should be able to select 'Burn with ImgBurn'.

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tsmith777
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I just checked ImgBurn again and it is now listed under the desktop so I should use ImgBurn or Toshiba?

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raphoenix
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You can now use Imgburn to browse for the ISO file as you tried to do before.

Not sure what the Toshiba software will do if you insert a blank clean disc.

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tsmith777
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I got it burned with ImgBurn and it was worked fine, I will now put it in the XP machine and see if it comes up with a password

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tsmith777
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I am running the iso file and it went through many item and all said OK, but now it seems to be stuck at, Requesting events from the Kernel..._ with a very fast blinking cursor.

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tsmith777
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Still stuck and cursor blinking

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GuiltySpark
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Seems to be taking too long, should be a lot quicker than that.

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tsmith777
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It did go very fast until it got stuck

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tsmith777
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Should I try exiting and running it again?

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GuiltySpark
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I would.

It may even be worth trying the 'low Ram' option from the start up list, although I have never tried this way so you may be on your own trying to figure it out.

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tsmith777
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The only way to exit is to power down, it also seems that my keyboard has been disabled

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tsmith777
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now I really have some strange things. The screen has a desktop that says My Documents, ophcrack, help & doc launcher at the bottom in large letters it says Slitaz and applications sakura osophcrack. In the middle ophcraqck with progress disabled*A 31d6cfeOd1 thats listed twice UpdatusUser. not found. In Sakura and searching tables in: /media/slr/tables, Tables found/media/slr/tables/xp_free_small. Found one partition that contains hashes:/media/sda2/Windows32/System32/config, starting Ophcrack. Does that mean there is nopassword?

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tsmith777
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UpdatusUser 4d032c0222 Not Found in RED, there are several headings in ophcrack they all say empty or not found

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GuiltySpark
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At the bottom of the Ophcrack box it should have another section that says
Table | Directory | Status | Progress

Under the Table tab it should say XP, there should also be small box with a plus sign in it. Click that plus sign and the tree will expand so it will say something like
XP... ///media/sr0/... xx% in RAM
Tabl... xx% in RAM
Etc...

Is the progress bar to the right in green ?

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tsmith777
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Under the XP free ///media/sr 1/... there are 5 progress bars all of them are white and contain no data or color, nothing about ram anywhere

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raphoenix
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Probably Best to:

1. Download these drivers and burn to CD using Windows 7 Machine.
http://www.dell.com/support/dr.....ct/xps-720

2. Do a Clean Install of XP Machine.

3. Figure out which Drivers are needed and install them from CD made in step #1

4. Close this Topic and start New XP Topic.

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GuiltySpark
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Progress bars white ? Doesn't sound like the program ran, there should be a button at the top of Ophcrack screen that says Crack. Click that and it should start.

However if you want to go the clean install route then follow Ricks advice.

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tsmith777
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GS I did click on the button crack and nothing happened

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