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  • Started 9 years ago by horselady
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horselady
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CreataCard 3 has the best calendar program I have ever used. Unfortunately this program will not run with Vista. When I try to install I get the following message "The program can't run due to incompatibility with 64 bit windows. See if a 64 bit windows compatible version is available".
Of course , this program is so old that their is no support for it with Broderbund. This program will run with Windows XP. Do you have any solutions for me?

Posted 9 years ago
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Lighthouse
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Try and run it in compatibility mode XP

Posted 9 years ago
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jd2066
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I need to know a few things first:
What is the make and model number of your computer?
What is the edition of Vista you are using? Basic, Home Premium, Ultimate, etc.
When did you buy this program?

Posted 9 years ago
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horselady
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I did try and run it in compatibility mode XP no luck there

My computer is a HP Pavilion Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
Model #M8430F
Running Vista Home Premium (64 bit) SP1

Bought the program sometime in the late 90's

Posted 9 years ago
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jd2066
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Ok. With that software being around 8 years old that lowers the chance of making it work on Windows Vista 64-bit edition to almost nil.
We can still try some things though.
What else is in the error message? Like the title bar text, links, buttons, etc.

Posted 9 years ago
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horselady
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TITLE BAR: Unsupported 16-Bit Application
"The program or feature "\??\E:\setup.exe" cannot start or run due to incompatibility with 64-bit versions of windows. Please contact the software vendor to ask if a 64-bit Windows compatible version is available.
OKAY
Pressed okay then another box appears:
TITLE BAR: Sorry! SETUP.EXE can't run off the CD-ROM. Go to Explorer, select your CD-ROM and run SETUP.EXE from there.
OKAY
After doing the above get the message:
TITLE BAR: "E:\setup.exe"
The version of this file is not compatible with the version of Windows you're running. Check your computer's system information to see whether you need an x86(32bit) or x64 (64-bit) version of the program, and then contact the software publisher.

Posted 9 years ago
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jd2066
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Ok, that means the setup program is a 16-bit program which isn't compatible with the 64-bit edition.
If the program itself is 32-bit though and not 16-bit then the program may run if you can install it without the setup program. A tricky thing to do depending on how it works.
If you have an installed copy on a Windows XP install you can try copying the C:\Program Files\[CreataCard 3 Directory] to C:\Program Files (x86) on your Vista 64-bit install and running the executable file.
Note: You can figure out what the CreataCard 3 Directory is by right clicking on the Start Menu shortcut and clicking properties.

Posted 9 years ago
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horselady
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I copied from XP computer
Programs:Creatacard Gold 3
In location
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu|Programs file size 11.9 KB
I then copied and pasted this to Vista Program files (x86) and it showed a program Creatacard 3. I clicked on that and the only thing I have is shortcuts for various parts of the Creatacard program.
Obviously I did not copy the correct file so could you please give me more instructions.
I don't have a "start menu" short cut-at least not on my desktop.

Tried looking for C:\Program Files\Creatacard 3 Directory using search and had no results.

Posted 9 years ago
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horselady
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There are 2 big files to this program. One is data and one is gold. This is how I installed it on my old computer when I converted from Windows Me to XP.
I made a Creatcard folder in program files on my computer.
Opened folder
dragged files from Creata Card Data back-up disc to folder
dragged files from Creatacard Gold back-up disc to folder.
I opened the data file on the computer and clicked on setup and it went in fine.
Unfortunately this did not work for Vista.

Posted 9 years ago
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jd2066
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If you right click on the shortcut for Creatacard 3 in the Start Menu and click properties the location should be in the target field.

Posted 9 years ago
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horselady
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I don't have a shortcut for Creatacard 3 in the Start Menu
The only shortcuts in my Start Menu are Outlook Express, Internet Explorer, Windows Media and Remote Assistance.
Am I looking in the right place?

Posted 9 years ago
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jd2066
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It would in whereever you normally launch the program from. Some subfolder, a desktop shortcut, etc.

Posted 9 years ago
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horselady
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The only exe file I can find is a setup exe file in the data part of the program. Get the same message
TITLE BAR: "E:\setup.exe"
The version of this file is not compatible with the version of Windows you're running. Check your computer's system information to see whether you need an x86(32bit) or x64 (64-bit) version of the program, and then contact the software publisher.

so I guess it is a lost cause. Too bad--such a good program. I have left the program in my Vista computer installed by dragging the files as I described above so if anyone has some other ideas I will try them.

Posted 9 years ago
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jd2066
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I mean find the shortcut properties on a computer with the program installed and copy it's install folder to the Vista computer.
Also what is it you like about the program? Maybe I can recommend a different program that does the same thing.

Posted 9 years ago
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horselady
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I like this program because I have been using it like a dairy since the late 90's and I have a lot of information stored in the program that I would hate to lose.
I tell you what I have been doing and what happens. I right click on start on the bottom left of my XP computer (this is the one with the program installed and working )and I get a screen that says Start Menu on the top and has a program folder on it. I open the program folder and it has some programs (not all my programs) and 4 short cut icons--the same ones I gave on a previous post. Obviously I am not looking in the right place but don't know what to do.

Posted 9 years ago
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jd2066
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Ok. So when you do that you have a shortcut listed that will open Creatacard 3. Now right click on that shortcut and click properties. If shown what is listed in the target field?

Posted 9 years ago
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horselady
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I don't have a shortcut for Creatacard 3 in the Start Menu
The only shortcuts in my Start Menu are Outlook Express, Internet Explorer, Windows Media and Remote Assistance.

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jd2066
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Above you said "I copied from XP computer
Programs:Creatacard Gold 3
In location
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu|Programs file size 11.9 KB".
In that case it seems you do have shortcuts for it.

Posted 9 years ago
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horselady
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Target: "C:\Program Files\CreataCard\Gold\CACard32.exe

Posted 9 years ago
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horselady
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It is a 2KB file

Posted 9 years ago
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jd2066
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Ok, then the folder it's installed to is C:\Program Files\CreataCard
Try coping that folder to a disk or something and putting it on the Windows Vista machine in C:\Program Files (x86).
Then on the Windows Vista machine where open the folder C:\Program Files (x86)\CreataCard\Gold and double click the file CACard32.exe.
If that works and opens the program on the Windows Vista machine then shortcuts to it can be made in the Start Menu.

Posted 9 years ago
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horselady
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jd2066--Sorry for the delay-thought you had given up on me I didn't realize their was a page 2.
Had a friend helping me yesterday and we tried to install using the CreataCard32.exe and at first we got the message that it was missing a file called simple.dll--I found the file in Windows\system 32 and copied it and installed it in both Windows\system32 and the Creatacard file in my Vista computer. They we had to repeat the process for pgp.dll, bn.dll & keydb.dll-then after all that was installed we tried again to double click the file and got the message "Error during program initialization. Please re-install CreataCard"
Do you still want me to uninstall CreataCard in Vista and re-install? Creatacard is not listed in the program files in Vista so would have to delete by right clicking on Creatacard in program files and selecting delete.

Posted 9 years ago
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jd2066
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There two types of program install and uninstall processes.
Automatic Installation - This you run the setup.exe file, it copies all the needed files for the program and creates an entry in Programs and Features to remove the program.
Manual Installation - This is where you copy the needed files yourself and no entry is made in Programs and Features. You would have to remove those yourself to uninstall it. Which you don't need to do right now.

That message means the program hasn't been compleatly installed. Normally you could just use the automatic installation but it isn't supported on Vista 64-bit edition due the installer being 16-bit (A bad choise for a 32-bit program but that is what they did).
There are some other files or registry entries the program needs. There are some programs you can run on the Windows XP install to help figure out what those are.
I'll look for one and post a link to it.

Edit (11 hours ago): I have looked and haven't yet found an easy program to do that. I'll look again later and see if I find one.

Posted 9 years ago
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jd2066
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Ok. I'm not exactly sure what to say now.
There are programs that can record what an install does on one computer and make an installer to put it on another computer. The new installer being 32-bit should work. I just can't find a free repackager program at the moment.
You maybe able to find the needed files and registry entries by using Process Monitor on the Windows XP computer but it's not that easy to figure out.

Posted 9 years ago
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horselady
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Well I probably won't be able to figure it out anyway. I'm not that experienced with that type of stuff. Now have another problem--I started using another similar calendar program on Vista and up till this a.m. my only problem with it was finding where it backed up its info. as it does not back up back into the program. This morning the calendar came up empty--I lost my address book and all the entries I had made in the calendar. Haven't a clue where to start looking for my lost information. Any thoughts on this??? I just might resort to a calendar hanging on the wall and forget about all these fancy computer calendars.

Posted 9 years ago
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jd2066
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What is the other program you tried?

Posted 9 years ago
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horselady
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Hallmark Card Studio 2003 and the calendar part of it is called the Event Planner--very similar to CreataCard

SURPRISINGLY ENOUGH IT WORKS OR APPEARS TO WORK WITH VISTA THAT IS TILL TODAY WHEN IT LOST ITS INFORMATION.

A few days ago when I was looking for a way to back up this Event Planner program I copied all the program files for the card file and event planner to a c d (this is how I had to back up CreataCard in XP) I then installed this program in my computer with the Windows Xp. It installed fine but did not have any of the personal information that I had put in the program in Vista. This information is stored somewhere else. Their is an import and export option with this program however, they are grayed out.

Posted 9 years ago
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jd2066
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Try right clicking on the program shortcut and clicking "Run as Administrator".

Posted 9 years ago
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horselady
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It just opens the calendar with no personal input.

Posted 9 years ago
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jd2066
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That seems odd.
Unfortunately I don't know how to fix that and I'm going on a little vacation for about 2 days so I can't help you during that time.
Maybe someone else on these forums will know how to fix that.

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BobH
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Horselady wrote: "It just opens the calendar with no personal input."

I am using CreataCard 3 with Vista. It is easy with the 32 bit version, harder with the 64 bit version, especially if you are doing a semi-manual install. The reason you cannot see your personal input (or copy all the data you have entered from before) is because of a security feature in Vista that won't let anyone but an administrator write to C:/Program Files/CreataCard/Data. Before installing, make yourself a CreataCard data folder in your own user documents area. Then on install, specify that folder as your data location. After the install and reboot, move your old FMNOT32.DAT and FMNOT32.BAK to your own user data folder. Vista security will be happy with you there. But....

If you can't get setup to run at all because the 64-bit Vista, that is beyond the scope of what I can suggest here because it will require a manual edit of the registry to point the software to the correct folder. Let me know if you have any success -- or not.....

BobH

Posted 8 years ago
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horselady
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Hi Bob H. I tried what you suggested--no luck but found out some info. It would appear that I have a 16 bit CreataCard application. Any ideas on that?

Posted 8 years ago
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ddcoop
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I just installed Hallmark Comedy Card Studio Deluxe 2 by Sierra on my Vista 64-bit machine. It works with all the saved files from Creatacard. If the Calendar and Address Book data file is fmnot32.dat, rename it to planr32.dat and then the Event Calendar will work as well. It must have come out of the same factory as it works exactly like Creatacard.

Posted 8 years ago
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horselady
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Hello: ddcoop How do you install it in the Hallmark Event Calendar? Also in my Hallmark Planner file I have a plan32.bak file and a plan 32 Video CD Movie file which I strongly believe is the plan32.dat file but I can't open it.

Posted 8 years ago
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ddcoop
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Find the fmnot32.dat file in Creatacard on your old machine and copy it to a disk or flash drive. Copy it to your new computer in the Hallmark folder on your drive. Rename the file PLANR32.DAT. When you open the event calendar, it should show all of your old dates and addresses. It worked for me. Good luck, hope that helps.

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bcope01
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I have the installation disk for American Greetings Creatacard Gold 3. When I insert the CD in my computer running the Windows Vista 64-bit operating system and select Autorun, I get the following error message:

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Unsupported 16-Bit Application
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The program or feature "\??\E:\setup.exe" cannot start or run due to incompatibity with 64-bit versions of Windows. Please contact the software vendor to ask if a 64-bit Windows compatible version is available.
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Is there anyway to work around the 16-bit installer INSTALLSHIELD? I understand the application itself is 32-bit and should run fine on my Vista 64-bit system once it is installed. If there is no work-around for the CD installer, then perhaps there is some way to migrate/transfer it from my old computer running Windows XP (32-bit)?

Any suggestions? Much appreciated, Bill

Posted 8 years ago
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jd2066
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I'm not sure of a way to transfer the current install on the Windows XP install but you maybe able to transfer a new install with the following way:
1. On the Windows XP 32-bit computer:
A. Uninstall the current Creatacard program.
B. Install a setup repackager program like AppDeploy Repackager.
C. Use the setup repackager to record a new install of Creatacard and create a new 32-bit setup file.
D. Transfer the new 32-bit setup file to the Windows Vista 64-bit computer.
2. On the Windows Vista 64-bit computer:
A Run the transfered 32-bit setup file.

Posted 8 years ago
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bcope01
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jd2066: Thanks, I give that a try as soon as I can, and report back with the results.

Posted 8 years ago
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bcope01
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OK, did not work. Used AppDeploy Repackager on my 32-bit XP computer. Created the Microsoft installation file (.msi). Tried to run the file on my Windows 64-bit system. During the installation got the following message window: "Could not write value ProgramCount to key \S-1-5-21-2490487155-1978222294-34668545-103\SessionInformation." Across the bottom of the window there were three buttons: Cancel, Retry, and Ignore. Retry and Ignore did nothing when selected, Cancel cancelled the install. Don't know where to go from here. Ugh.

Posted 8 years ago
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jd2066
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It sounds like the repackager got more registry keys then it should have.
Try this:
Download the program InstEd at http://www.instedit.com/
Run the program and open the msi file.
On the left scroll down and click the Registry table.
On the right scroll down and right click on the key "S-1-5-21-2490487155-1978222294-34668545-103\SessionInformation" and click delete row.
Click Yes.
Click File and Save As.
Save to a new msi file and see if it works now.

If that doesn't work then you can email me (email address is on my web site that is listed in my profile) the MSI file and I'll see if I can get it to work.

Posted 8 years ago
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jd2066
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I didn't think the MSI would be 500MB+ which is too much to email.
I have another idea though. I checked and found that you can just export one table from the MSI file.
Just right click on the registry table and click export. That file should be small enough to email.
I'll look at it and I should be able to tell you which registry keys should be removed.

Posted 8 years ago
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bcope01
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As you already know, I tried deleting that registry entry, re-ran the installation, came up with another problem registry entry, deleted, re-ran, another problem registry entry, etc. Couldn't email the MSI due to its size - 579MB. So did as you suggested and exported only the registry table which I will email to you ASAP.

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jd2066
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I looked at the file and I think you should remove all the keys that start with the following:
S-1-5-21-2490487155-1978222294-34668545-1003
S-1-5-18
CLSID
Control Panel
Interface
SessionInformation
SOFTWARE\Microsoft
SOFTWARE\Classes
SYSTEM

You can click the key column in InstEd to sort the keys to make this easier to do. InstEdit will also let you multible items by holding the shift key and clicking the start/end keys.
This should make the registry section pass. Hopefully the rest of the installer and Creatacard work too.

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bcope01
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I removed all of the registry keys that you recommended, saved the MSI file again and launched it. The file ran all the way through. I now have a populated CreataCard folder within the Program Files (x86) directory. No CreataCard group in the Start Menu, but the CACard32.exe icon and file to launch the program are there, and also on the Desktop.

When I launch that program I get the following error window titled "CACard32.exe -Unable To Locate Component." Within this window is a red X with a message stating "This application has failed to start because simple.dll was not found. Re-installing the application may fix this problem."

Any ideas why that library wasn't installed when I launched the MSI file, or is simple.dll a Windows System32 file not found/used in Windows Vista 64-bit?

Posted 8 years ago
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jd2066
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I think the issue maybe that the msi installed simple.dll to the system32 folder which while correct in the 32-bit version, on the 64-bit version the 32-bit system folder is named SysWow64.
Check if simple.dll is in C:\Windows\System32 and if it is copy it to C:\Windows\SysWOW64.
In the registry export file there was also a few dlls like simple.dll listed so after doing that I think it may complain about another dll file. If so I'll post the full list from that export file.

Posted 8 years ago
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bcope01
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Could not find the file simple.dll in either folder (and for that matter anywhere on the computer).

Posted 8 years ago
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jd2066
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Ok. You can try copying the C:\Windows\System32\simple.dll file from the Windows XP computer to the C:\Windows\SysWOW64 folder on the Windows Vista computer.
I know that simple.dll doesn't come with Windows so I would guess the program installed. I'm not sure why the MSI wouldn't have installed it.

Posted 8 years ago
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bcope01
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Copied over to C:\Windows\SysWOW64 folder on my Vista 64-bit computer all 18 DLL of the files from the 32-bit XP computer that launching the application requested in succession. Now when I launch the CreataCard application I get the following window titled "CreataCard." Within this window is "Error during program initialization. Please reinstall CreataCard."

At a loss as to what to try next.

Posted 8 years ago
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jd2066
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Was one of the dlls hlink.dll ?
From looking at the registry table I think it may be one.
If not copied then copy it. And from an elevated command prompt type the following and press enter:
regsvr32 C:\Windows\SysWOW64\hlink.dll

Posted 8 years ago
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bcope01
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The file hlink.dll is/was already in C:\Windows\SysWOW64\hlink.dll. Ran "regsvr32 C:\Windows\SysWOW64\hlink.dll" at the C: Command Prompt. Said it was successful. Launched CreataCard, got this message again:

"Error during program initialization. Please reinstall CreataCard."

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jd2066
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It's possible the MSI installed the creatacard registry entries to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Micrografx where on the 64-bit version of the Windows it should be under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\WOW6432node\Micrografx.
Here is how to copy the registrys keys from the first location to the other one:
Click the start button.
In the search box type regedit and press enter.
Click Continue.
Browse down to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Micrografx.
Click File and Export. Save the file somewhere (Doesn't matter where as it will be deleted at the end of this).
Go to where the exported file is, right click on and click edit.
Click Edit and click Replace.
In the find field put SOFTWARE\Micrografx and in the replace field put Software\WOW6432node\Micrografx .
Click Replace All and then click Cancel.
Click File and Save.
Close Notepad.
Go to where the registry export file is and double click on it.
Click Continue, Yes and OK.
Now in the registry editor, go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\WOW6432node\Micrografx to make sure it's there.
Close the registry editor.
Delete the registry export file.
Now see if Creatacard works.

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bcope01
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Sorry about the delay in getting back to you. Had to get some cardiac rehab done.

The CreataCard registry entries were correctly installed under the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\WOW6432node\Micrografx\Creatacard key by the MSI.

One thing I did notice is that the path for CreataCard data specified in these registry keys is a \Data folder within the C:\Program Files (x86)\CreataCard directory. I noticed on page 2 of this thread that forum member BobH said that Vista doesn't like writing data to the Program Files (x86) folder. Think this may be causing a problem? I guess I could create a Data folder outside of the Program File (x86) directry and edit the registry entries to point to the new folder.

Posted 8 years ago
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jd2066
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It's possible. You can try running the program as an Administrator (Which has full rights to that folder) to see if it helps.
Just right click on the creatacard program, click "Run As Administrator" and click Continue.

Posted 8 years ago
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bcope01
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Already done that and had no effect. Get same error message.

Posted 8 years ago
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jd2066
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Try using Process Monitor to see what file and registry accesses the program is doing before that error message.
Here is how to use it.:
Run Process Monitor.
Click the capature icon (looks like a magnifine glass) on the left of the toolbar to turn off the capture so you can set a filter.
Click Fliter and click Filter.
Select process name, type in the name of the creatacard exe file, click the Add button.
Click Ok.
Click the Clear button to the left of the toolbar to clear the unfiltered events it has collected.
Click the capture button again to start a new capture.
Run creatacard, and when the error appears click ok.
In Process Explorer click capture to stop the capture.

Now you can either look though the list for an failures and try to fix it or save the list to a PML file, email it and I'll look at it and try to come up with something to fix the problem if I can.
How to save the list to a PML file:
Click File and Save.
Click the ... by the path and select where you want the file.
Click OK.

Posted 8 years ago
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bcope01
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Saved PML on the way via email. Please take a look at it to see if you can figure out why the CreataCard launch is failing. Thanks!

Posted 8 years ago
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jd2066
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I got the PML file and looked at what it showed.
My guess is that the following DLL files are failing:
C:\Program Files (x86)\CreataCard\Gold\jgpl400.dll
C:\Program Files (x86)\CreataCard\Gold\JGDW400.DLL
C:\Program Files (x86)\CreataCard\Gold\JGSD400.DLL
C:\Program Files (x86)\CreataCard\Gold\jgaw400.dll
C:\Program Files (x86)\CreataCard\Gold\jgsh400.dll
C:\Program Files (x86)\CreataCard\Gold\jgpl400.dll
C:\Program Files (x86)\CreataCard\Gold\jgmd400.dll

Try moving these DLL files to another folder and seeing if Creatacard will run without them.
If it won't run without them send me a copy of DLL files and I will check them out.

Posted 8 years ago
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bcope01
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I moved the DLL files out of the C:\Program Files (x86)\CreataCard\Gold folder as suggested. When I launched the CreataCard executable, I got the following window for each DLL file in succession until it was replaced:

"CACard32.exe - Unable to Locate Component"

"This application has failed to start because xxx.dll (each of the DLLS removed) was not found. Re-installing the application may fix this problem."

When I put the DLLs back into the C:\Program Files (x86)\CreataCard\Gold folder and launched the CreataCard program, I got the original error "CreataCard." Within this window is "Error during program initialization. Please reinstall CreataCard."

Copy of these DLLs on the way to you via email.

Posted 8 years ago
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jd2066
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I looked at the DLL files you sent and I think I was wrong on them being the problem.
I looked at the PML again and I can't find a problem in the logs at the moment.
You can try making a log with API Monitor and I'll see if I can find the problem with it's log.
Though I'm not much of an expert on APIs so it may not help.
Also at the moment I don't have time to write how to use it so I'll have to do that tomarrow.

Posted 8 years ago
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bcope01
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Standing by.

Posted 8 years ago
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jd2066
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Here is how to get the log from API Monitor:
Run API Monitor.
Open the Capture menu and select Process Filter.
Click "Include Filter (Monitor Processes Specified Below)".
In thed Process Box type CACard32 (API Monitor doesn't include .exe as part of the name).
Click Add and click Ok.
Open the Capture menu and select API Filter.
Check select all under Win32 API and NT Native API.
Uncheck Memory Management under Win32 API and Uncheck Memory under NT Native API.
Click OK.
Open the Capture menu and select Capture API Events.
Start Creatacard.
Note: With the APIs being monitored Creatacard may be slower to open.
When you click ok on the Creatacard error open the Capture menu can click Capture API Events to stop the capture.
Open the File menu and click Save.
Save the apm file somewhere and send it via email.

Posted 8 years ago
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bcope01
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API Monitor capture file sent via email.

Posted 8 years ago
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jd2066
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I looked at the API Monitor capture file and couldn't figure out the problem with it.
I'm now out of ideas for getting Creatacard to work on Windows Vista 64-bit.
One thing you might be able to do however is use Virtualzation software like VirtualBox (The 64-bit version is labled AMD64) to run Windows XP in a Virtual Machine running on Windows Vista 64-bit.
This is not the prefered way to run older programs as it takes more processer power and memory and doesn't integrate as well into the host OS (Windows Vista 64-bit in this case) but it's the only idea I have at the moment.

Posted 8 years ago
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bcope01
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Thanks for your time and efforts jd2066. You went above and beyond. Not sure how I will proceed. I'm no computer whiz. Wish there was someplace I could just send/take the original installation disk to and have them repackage it into a working MSI for Vista 64-bit.

Posted 8 years ago
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jd2066
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Reading your post listing "repackage it" gave me an idea.
I only listed AppDeploy Repackager as it was a small free repackager.
There are other repackaging programs out there you can try.
Like InstallShield Premier includes a repackager though the program costs money.
It does appear from their site you can download a free 21 day trial of it.
You can get it from http://www.acresso.com/downloa.....latedLinks
You do need to register for the trial and the download is about 150MB.
If that is a problem, I can look for other repackager programs.

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bcope01
Posts: 20

I'll give that a try (InstallShield Premier Repackager) when I get some time in the next few days.

Don't know if it is possible, but is there some way I could install Creatacard on a flash drive from my old computer running XP? That way, I could run it on any PC I'm using, including my Vista 64-bit computer by inserting the flash drive in a USB port.

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jd2066
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Programs that from a flash drive should be contained to one folder.
Sense Creatacard wouldn't run when the program folder and even other DLL files were copied over that means there is some other file or registry key that needs to be on the system drive. Whatever that is, it would need to be installed on each system for it to run from a flash drive thus defeating the purpose.

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bcope01
Posts: 20

Back to the InstallShield Premier Repackager then. Hope my old computer boots up. It is pretty sad. I may do a System Recovery to restore the computer to its factory-shipped condition. That way I will have a fairly clean system on which to run the Repackager.

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kirputer
Posts: 2

Hello,

This thread is about problems with 64 bit Vista and CreataCard 3.

I have the 32 bit version of Vista.
I am also having problems installing CreataCard Gold 3 on to it.

I have the CreataCard Gold 3 application CDROM. When I click on setup.exe, a box pops up saying installsheild. It will run for several minutes and then says "not responding".

I tried using Vista's compatability wizard, but that did not seem to make any difference.

Some of you have indicated that you have loaded CreataCard on to 32 bit systems. Can you let me know how you did that? thank you.

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bcope01
Posts: 20

Think we'll be able to install the CreataCard Gold 3 program from CD if we update to Windows 7? Or will we still not be able to due to the 16-bit InstallShield installation program used by the CD?

Posted 7 years ago
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JH
Posts: 61

bcope: There should be no trouble with 16 bit on 32 bit Vista, or hopefully 32 bit 7 for that matter. Kirputer, assuming you have read the rest of the thread, Have you tried a) running the setup program as administrator and possibly b) running it from a command prompt elevated as administrator? The procedure for the latter would be to run cmd.exe as administrator and typing [CD drive letter]:\setup.exe and pressing Enter. I have loaded 16 bit programs onto Vista and the solution seems to differ for each one. Procedure seems to be getting each executable to be run as administrator, possibly with compatability mode set to a 9x system and a variety of the other features selected. One program seemed to have problems installing until I clicked 'Run' instead of 'Install' at the splash screen, which brought up the installer. Another option, especially if the application was originally designed to work on DOS as well/instead of Windows, is to run the installer within a command prompt elevated as administrator. Often virtualization is slow, and it is often easier to buy an old computer for about £20.
The Vista Compatability 'Wizard' is basically useless, you can get the same functionality with the compatability tab for that program's properties.

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bcope01
Posts: 20

JH, I wouldn't know about Vista 32-bit, as I'm running Vista 64-bit on my PC. I've tried everything imaginable and still can't get the 32-bit CAC 3 program to install from the CD due to its 16-bit InstallShield installation program. I'm hoping that upgrading to Windows 7 64-bit, I will be able to run 16-bit programs, unlike Vista 64-bit. I haven't a clue if Windows 7 will be backward compatible with 16-bit software, and have no idea who to ask.

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bcope01
Posts: 20

Just upgraded (???) my OS to Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit. Tried to install CAC Gold 3 from original disk and it failed. Error message stating that 16-bit programs not supported.

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wcrabbit
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CAC Gold 3 Will not work with VISTA 64bit or Windows 7 64BIT. If your looking for software w/Reminder calander That CAC Gold has, try Hallmark Card Studio Special Edition, It is Identical to CAC Gold Reminders, it has address Book and everything thing else and works w/64BIT!!!!!!!

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