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  • Started 8 years ago by lancex95
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lancex95
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Ok so i finally decided im definately going to be building a PC from scratch. But i need to know exactly what parts i need to get

What i KNOW i need;

Hard Drive
Monitor
Tower
Motherboard
Case Fans
PCU
PCU Cooler
RAM
Graphics Cards
CD/DVD Drives
Power Source Unit
Wireless Card (Im considering this, im not completely sure about it just yet since my PC is right next to the router so its not far and not completely necessary)

Am i leaving anything out besides these?

Also i am going to be building a pc based for gaming, though multi tasked to be able to be used for work, video editing, etc sorta. but thats not to important. basically ill probably need help choosing parts that are good/high end but cheap at the same time. especially with PCU and PCU cooler and case fans

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raphoenix
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lancex95,
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"choosing parts that are good/high end but cheap at the same time."
Unquote.
The Build is for YOU, not us.
Please be more specific as to your total budget.

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lancex95
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budget is really not a problem, thats why i didnt include it. but if you must have something for you to base it on, id like it to be at least $1,500 or less, but it can go slightly over if necessary.

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raphoenix
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lancex95,
I'll just suggest this Motherboard and let other members give their favorite choices also.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/.....6813131346

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lancex95
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Parts im looking at so far:

Graphics Card:

EVGA 512-P3-N971-TR GeForce 9800 GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/.....6814130397

Hard Drive:

Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD3200KSRTL 320GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/.....6822136039

RAM (Memory):

Crucial 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/.....6820148160

Monitor:

HP w2207h Black 22" 5ms HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor DC 3000:1(2000:1) - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/.....6824176091

Power Source

Thermaltake Purepower W0100RU 500W ATX 12V 2.0 Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/.....6817153052

as for motherboard, idk i need recommendatinos. also CPU and CPU Cooler and case and case fans, i need help on (srry for spelling mistake with CPU)

but how are these parts so far?

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lancex95
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Could somebody please recommend me a motherboard (the one above seems good, a bit expensive but pretty good either way which should be perfect i hope) but others could help, a CPU, a CPU cooling fan, case fans, and a case please? these are the last things i need to find

also are the parts ive chosen already good too btw? i want to make sure im choosing quality products

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madmacs
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Hi lancex95, I would suggest building (although slightly more expensive) an i7 system. Here´s what I would put together:

Tower: Antec 900 @ $109.99
CPU: Core i7 920 @ $294.99
Motherboard: Asus P6T Deluxe @ $299.99
Video Card: EVGA 260 Core 216 overclocked @ $279.99
PSU: Tuniq Potency 750W, SLI Ready, 80 plus certifed @ $118.99
RAM: Corsair Dominator 6GB Triple Channel PC 12800 @ $229.99
HD: 2x WD Caviar 500GB SATA @ $119.98
DVD Burner: LG GH22NS30 22x SATA @ $24.99
DVD Drive (optional): Asus DVD-E818A3T 18x SATA @ $19.99
CPU Heatsink (optional): Vigor Monsoon III Dual 120mm Fans @ $59.99
Monitor: Viewsonic vx2233wn 21´5" Full HD @ $179.99

If you decide to buy everything it would cost $1738.88 or $1658.90 without the second DVD drive and heatsink. Also I´m sure that if you ordered everything together you could try and get it cheaper from newegg!! This setup is certainly one that I would call "future-proof", at least for a year or two, as it is with building computers!! Matt

PS: Have a look here for wireless adaptors.

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lancex95
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as good as that setup is. its just a bit too expensive. Are the parts i showed good? cause then i can make changes to it here and there to create a cheaper one by swapping out parts you found for a few of mine. like the RAM for example. 6gb i dont really need if a pc can actually use that much, the 4gb is perfectly fine for me really.

the video card, i considered a really high end one like that but then i found those cheaper 9800gts sli ones. i figure if i get one like that, i can always buy a second one and use em both with the SLI feature.

frankly, my current PC setup ive had for about 8-10 years. the most new things in it are the NVidia GEFORE FX5500 graphics card and 2gb of ram.

but yeah are the parts i picked out any good? if they are really good in some way, i can make changes to what youve shown me so far

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madmacs
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@lancex95, I´m a little confused as you stated earlier that money wasn´t a problem!! Which is why I listed a (fairly) cheap gaming i7 setup.

I linked to the 6GB´s of RAM because both Motherboard (M/B) and CPU support Triple Channel memory. 4 GB´s is more than enough if you going to use a Core2Duo or a QuadCore processor, although DDR2 PC 6400 (800Mhz) is fairly slow for todays standards, it all depends on what M/B you are wanting to buy.

The EVGA 9800GT is not a bad graphics card, it is based on the 8800 chip, just has a new name and is slightly overclocked. As for SLI ready, it would mean buying an exact same card again, doubling the price and making it (give or take a few dollars) the same price as the 260 Core 216. The latter can also be used for a SLI setup (when money is available!!)

The PSU you linked to is only 500W, this will not be enough power to use SLI later. When looking for a PSU look for a SLI/80plus certified one. SLI certified meaning you can add two video cards on the 12v rails and 80plus certified meaning it has better power management, drawing the power only when needed. (Saves money on the bills!!)

I would still recommend the i7 setup, if it is too expensive then tell me what your exact budget would be and I´ll post back

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lancex95
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all points you make are good, ill see what an exact budget would be. most likely i will see if i can get my mom to help pay for some of the things, but theres also somebody my dad used to help alot that i can probably get alot of these parts cheaper from him hopefully.

also even with that setup, dont i still need the CPU cooler and case fans? or they are all included?

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madmacs
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If you aren´t going to overclock then you wouldn´t necessarily need a CPU cooler (just buy a boxed cpu, that include stock coolers), but I did provide a link to the Vigor Monsoon III (CPU Heatsink). The Antec 900 comes with case fans included (3x 120 mm and one 200mm)

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lancex95
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i could also temporarily eliminate the monitor, since i already have plenty of spare flatscreens in my house (im at school atm so i will provide more detail later). so it can be purchased later

sa for DVD burner and DVD Drive, those are optional. i can probably salvage the 2 i have from my old tower (again pics/specs later) to save a few more bucks

the HD 500gb would be nice, but i can probably live with less. 250 is decent, but 120 is like a minimum cause thats what my laptop uses and i kinda need some space

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lancex95
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heres those pics of my monitor, and my DVD burners from the outside and a pic of the inside of my whole PC






could these drives be salvageable? i mean they work fine and all, they are still good drives.

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lancex95
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ok matt im definately looking at your build though, and im trying to eliminate some thigns and cut the price down a good amount too cause im trying to get close to a grand as i can if i can

Tower: Antec 900 @ $109.99
CPU: Core i7 920 @ $294.99
Motherboard: Asus P6T Deluxe @ $299.99
Video Card: EVGA 260 Core 216 overclocked @ $279.99
PSU: Tuniq Potency 750W, SLI Ready, 80 plus certifed @ $118.99
RAM: Corsair Dominator 6GB Triple Channel PC 12800 @ $229.99

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HD: 2x WD Caviar 500GB SATA @ $119.98 (WILL FIND A 250GB OR EVEN A 120GB, DONT NEED SO MUCH SPACE REALLY, I HAVE 2 250GB EXTERNAL HDS SOOO)
DVD Burner: LG GH22NS30 22x SATA @ $24.99 (SALVAGE MINE)
DVD Drive (optional): Asus DVD-E818A3T 18x SATA @ $19.99 (SALVAGE MINE)
CPU Heatsink (optional): Vigor Monsoon III Dual 120mm Fans @ $59.99 (WITH SO MANY FANS IN CASE, I PROBABLY DONT NEED THIS)
Monitor: Viewsonic vx2233wn 21´5" Full HD @ $179.99 (ELIMINATE, BUY IN FUTURE)

So far eliminating that stuff (HD price not included yet) ive dropped your initial price from 1.7k-1.8k to $1333.94

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madmacs
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lancex95, unfortuantly I can´t tell what DVD drives or monitor you have by just looking at the pics ;) Although the top one looks like a LG CD Drive!! They are almost certainly IDE and not SATA drives though. I would still recommend the LG I mentioned, at $24.99 it´s not going to break the bank!! You could also save money on the RAM and get some smaller Triple Channel Memory sticks like these. That would save you another $100!! Make sure you purchase at least one SATA HD, size doesn´t matter, but putting an IDE HD in an i7 gaming system would be like putting a Mini engine in a Ferrari chassis!!

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lancex95
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hehe yeah the top one is an LG so ill grab the SATA u showed me

also ill look for a 250gb or even a 120gb SATA HD tho, but if u can find me one thatd be awesome too!

120gb is a minimum, 250gb is a bit preferred if its cheap

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madmacs
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WD Caviar 250GB SATA @ $49.99

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lancex95
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idk reading the reviews i see alot of ppl saying it failed =p

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madmacs
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65% of people gave it 5 eggs!! There are always whingers out there as well as problems sometimes occuring during fabrication. I couldn´t give you a 100% tip because there´s no such thing!! Matt

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lancex95
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hehe ok ill trust your word then bro.

so my final problems are Monitor and RAM.

both you showed me are good, the 6gigs actually would be insanely good for me to use, but sadly just a bit high in price.

is it possible to find a cheap at least maybe 4gb? if not thats perfectly find with the 3gb.

and monitor, ill probably search for a good one, size about the same just a bit cheaper, and hell if it has an HDMI Port on it too thatd be awesome, i can use my PS3 on it then xD

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madmacs
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In order to get the most out of your M/B and CPU you need to stay in Triple Memory, meaning 3,6,9,or even 12GB´s of RAM. Using 4 GB´s (although possible) would not be the best of options for an i7 system. Have a read of the links posted in this thread for more information on how i7 works. There are links to CPU, DDR3 and M/B´s there.

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lancex95
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ahh i see, then yeah ill definately stick with the 3gigs for now, in the future maybe ill double it though. unless i find some cheaper 6gig.

Thanks for the help Matt! You gave me some big time help towards buiding my first PC!

Final Build:

Tower: Antec 900 @ $109.99
CPU: Core i7 920 @ $294.99
Motherboard: Asus P6T Deluxe @ $299.99
Video Card: EVGA 260 Core 216 overclocked @ $279.99
PSU: Tuniq Potency 750W, SLI Ready, 80 plus certifed @ $118.99
RAM: CORSAIR DOMINATOR 3GB (3 x 1GB) @ $119.00
HD: WD Caviar 250GB SATA @ $49.99
DVD Burner: LG GH22NS30 22x SATA @ $24.99
DVD Drive (OPTIONAL): Asus DVD-E818A3T 18x SATA @ $19.99

FINAL PRICE (SHIPPING + TAX Not Included): $1317.92

Nice pricing, i included that optional drive, and thats all without shipping or a mointor!

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lancex95
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Now the question is: Vista or XP? xD

My Compaq Presario F761US (Laptop) Runs Windows Vista Home Premium OEM.

My current PC runs Windows XP Professional SP2

i can easily get either OS, but which should i use really? xD ive grown somewhat fond of vista really but idk i need opinion

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madmacs
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Vista and later Windows 7

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lancex95
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alright, now i have 2 questions for you.

1: WHAT THE **** IS WINDOWS 7? Ive been seeing posts about it all over these forums but idk what it is xD

2: Do you know anything about Macs? i have this old IMac i got running, and i think i should install a dif OS on it to try to make it worth using somehow, its Current OS is Mac OS 9, and its got 512MB of RAM

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madmacs
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Windows 7 is the latest O/S from Microsoft, out in a beta form for testing purposes. Sorry I haven´t got a clue when it comes to Macs!! Try posting the question you have in Apple forum here.

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lancex95
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ahh ok i see

and yeah i know how u feel with the macs, more complicated then they need to be imo o-O i did post the Q but its still got no posts soo its fine

thanks a ton for the help! ill save all of those links so i know them!

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lancex95
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one last question, would it be wise if i dual booted Windows XP Professional and Windows Vista Ultimate? Cause some games id like to play work only/better on XP than vista, vice versa. im only considering it atm but still

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SSSammy
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hey lancerx95
been following this post, was going to jump in and give my 2 cents but madmacs has taken all the words out of my mouth ... or fingers, as it were

my advice, dont get vista ultimate, stick with vista home premium, should save you $100 or so, which you could use to buy better ram (ie this one) make sure you're buying the vista 64 bit version.

and when buying from newegg, be sure to check out the combo deals, parts you choose just may be combined with another in which case you save more money, like this

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lancex95
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cool

and why 64 bit btw? my laptop has been usin 32 atm.

i have copies of all vista upgrades sooo....

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madmacs
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Hi lancex95, 32 bit will only address 3.2 GB´s MAXIMUM. In my my case, before getting 64 bit, it was only 2.8 GB´s due to having two video cards in SLI!! SSSammy was correct in telling you to look for deals at newegg and also pointed you out for cheaper RAM. I don´t want to disagree with him but the models I posted use faster bandwidth (better for i7), thus more expensive!! I also agree with with him looking for better deals, but I´m sure (not certain) if you contact customer support and tell them everything you want to buy that they will give you a deal!! Here in Germany, if I was buying a big setup, I could probably save between 10-15%. BE HARD, or let your Dad do the telephoning!!

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lancex95
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Sadly (and i know you meant nothing by it since you wouldnt have know) my dad has already passed away about almost 2 years ago. thats why im the one mainting all of our pcs (very well actually) i just decided to upgrade mine tho. ill prolly have to raise the money myself, but i may try to get my mom to help pay for it all too.

Ill definately call Newegg though to see if i can get a deal on a huge order like tat

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madmacs
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I´m so sorry to hear that!!

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