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	<title>Comments on: Get the Classic Start Menu in Windows 7</title>
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		<title>By: Daryl</title>
		<link>http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/2227/get-the-classic-start-menu-in-windows-7/comment-page-1/#comment-79474</link>
		<dc:creator>Daryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 13:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve just installed an OEM license of Win7 after running the release candidate, deciding to go ahead and move the the new O/S in spite of hating the absence of the classic start menu.  Click, scroll, click, scroll...how terribly inefficient in contrast to menus which spawn quickly with a simple mouse gesture.

After trying CSMenu, 7Stacks, and Classic Start Menu, I found my own simple approach which works suitably for now, if and until Microsoft either provides an update that restores the classic menu or else I adapt to the new style.  About these other alternatives, Classic Start Menu comes nearest to being a replacement that I like, and I may yet choose to go with it.  But, I miss that it doesn&#039;t provide a fly-out Control Panel menu nor the other special folders...Network, Printers, etc.  In contrast to CSMenu however, which I pretty quickly gave up, at least Classic Start Menu does support dragging around menu items to organize them as you like.  And it does look good in its Aero skin.  7Stacks seemed a relatively good idea, but there is far too much delay in providing the pop-up menu, at least on my 1.2GHz netbook.  I&#039;d not think there should be much delay, but there&#039;s enough that it doesn&#039;t have a true menu feel as I prefer.

So, what&#039;s my alternative?  It&#039;s native to Windows, so all speed of operation is consistent with what you&#039;d expect, but it doesn&#039;t offer the special folders menus.  For that, I still resort to the new Windows 7 Start Menu, and that suits me OK since special folders don&#039;t get accessed as often as programs do.  In any case, the alternative is a right-click on the Taskbar away from implementation....a new Toolbar, that points directly to the Start Menu folder.  Once you&#039;ve defined the toolbar, move it fully to the left of the taskbar and then use another toolbar or the main one to force the Start Menu toolbar down to the smallest size possible so that all you see is the toolbar title &quot;Start Menu&quot; and the chevrons to the right of that, indicating that there are more toolbar items available.  That&#039;s the trick...having the toolbar small enough to get the chevrons which then, upon clicking them, cause the toolbar to launch as a menu above the taskbar, which then expands in conventional classic start menu fashion.

Hope that helps someone,

Daryl</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve just installed an OEM license of Win7 after running the release candidate, deciding to go ahead and move the the new O/S in spite of hating the absence of the classic start menu.  Click, scroll, click, scroll&#8230;how terribly inefficient in contrast to menus which spawn quickly with a simple mouse gesture.</p>
<p>After trying CSMenu, 7Stacks, and Classic Start Menu, I found my own simple approach which works suitably for now, if and until Microsoft either provides an update that restores the classic menu or else I adapt to the new style.  About these other alternatives, Classic Start Menu comes nearest to being a replacement that I like, and I may yet choose to go with it.  But, I miss that it doesn&#8217;t provide a fly-out Control Panel menu nor the other special folders&#8230;Network, Printers, etc.  In contrast to CSMenu however, which I pretty quickly gave up, at least Classic Start Menu does support dragging around menu items to organize them as you like.  And it does look good in its Aero skin.  7Stacks seemed a relatively good idea, but there is far too much delay in providing the pop-up menu, at least on my 1.2GHz netbook.  I&#8217;d not think there should be much delay, but there&#8217;s enough that it doesn&#8217;t have a true menu feel as I prefer.</p>
<p>So, what&#8217;s my alternative?  It&#8217;s native to Windows, so all speed of operation is consistent with what you&#8217;d expect, but it doesn&#8217;t offer the special folders menus.  For that, I still resort to the new Windows 7 Start Menu, and that suits me OK since special folders don&#8217;t get accessed as often as programs do.  In any case, the alternative is a right-click on the Taskbar away from implementation&#8230;.a new Toolbar, that points directly to the Start Menu folder.  Once you&#8217;ve defined the toolbar, move it fully to the left of the taskbar and then use another toolbar or the main one to force the Start Menu toolbar down to the smallest size possible so that all you see is the toolbar title &#8220;Start Menu&#8221; and the chevrons to the right of that, indicating that there are more toolbar items available.  That&#8217;s the trick&#8230;having the toolbar small enough to get the chevrons which then, upon clicking them, cause the toolbar to launch as a menu above the taskbar, which then expands in conventional classic start menu fashion.</p>
<p>Hope that helps someone,</p>
<p>Daryl</p>
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		<title>By: Golam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Golam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 14:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to withdraw my comment. seems only to work in 2008 server and not in Win7

sry for the inconvinience</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to withdraw my comment. seems only to work in 2008 server and not in Win7</p>
<p>sry for the inconvinience</p>
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		<title>By: Golam</title>
		<link>http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/2227/get-the-classic-start-menu-in-windows-7/comment-page-1/#comment-78907</link>
		<dc:creator>Golam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 14:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>another easy solution;

run -&gt; gpedit.msc -&gt; user configuration -&gt; Administrative tasks -&gt; All settings -&gt; Force Classic Start Menu

enable it and voilá</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>another easy solution;</p>
<p>run -&gt; gpedit.msc -&gt; user configuration -&gt; Administrative tasks -&gt; All settings -&gt; Force Classic Start Menu</p>
<p>enable it and voilá</p>
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		<title>By: Jooch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jooch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 20:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see a lot of people in favor of the new start menu judging the ones that don&#039;t like the new start menu as stubborn or just stupid.

Who&#039;s actually at fault here the user or the programmer who decided to cancel out user choice?
Microsoft acts as socialist here, enforcing users to behave in a certain way. As if everyone in the whole world use their systems the same.

Neither of the two supersedes the other one, it&#039;s just 2 different ways of doing the same thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see a lot of people in favor of the new start menu judging the ones that don&#8217;t like the new start menu as stubborn or just stupid.</p>
<p>Who&#8217;s actually at fault here the user or the programmer who decided to cancel out user choice?<br />
Microsoft acts as socialist here, enforcing users to behave in a certain way. As if everyone in the whole world use their systems the same.</p>
<p>Neither of the two supersedes the other one, it&#8217;s just 2 different ways of doing the same thing.</p>
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		<title>By: TechGuru</title>
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		<dc:creator>TechGuru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is actually the first thing I tried to do after instaling.

Hopfully with enough complaints Microsoft will add the option to go Classic in Service Pack 1.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is actually the first thing I tried to do after instaling.</p>
<p>Hopfully with enough complaints Microsoft will add the option to go Classic in Service Pack 1.</p>
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		<title>By: nothingWrong</title>
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		<dc:creator>nothingWrong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 04:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing wrong with classic.  Fascinating to hear people say &quot;classic sucks, you just can&#039;t handle new ideas&quot;.

HEY how bout I arranged the start menu so with a quick set of keys could have any program on my machine launched without touching the damn mouse.  Faster baby, Faster.  WIN-&gt;p-&gt;a-&gt;n and BOOM notepad.  WIN-&gt;p-&gt;g-&gt;v and BOOM ventrilo.

Now I have to actually go interact with the damn thing.  I&#039;m not here to interact with their damn fruity start menu, I want my program started, and if I can&#039;t get it running just by thinking about it, I want the next best thing.  New menu is a step backward in speed and efficiency of movement.  I&#039;m sure it&#039;s the best thing for the Fischer Price toy crowd, and fine if &quot;The Rest Of Us&quot; love it, but I why remove the efficiency?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing wrong with classic.  Fascinating to hear people say &#8220;classic sucks, you just can&#8217;t handle new ideas&#8221;.</p>
<p>HEY how bout I arranged the start menu so with a quick set of keys could have any program on my machine launched without touching the damn mouse.  Faster baby, Faster.  WIN-&gt;p-&gt;a-&gt;n and BOOM notepad.  WIN-&gt;p-&gt;g-&gt;v and BOOM ventrilo.</p>
<p>Now I have to actually go interact with the damn thing.  I&#8217;m not here to interact with their damn fruity start menu, I want my program started, and if I can&#8217;t get it running just by thinking about it, I want the next best thing.  New menu is a step backward in speed and efficiency of movement.  I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s the best thing for the Fischer Price toy crowd, and fine if &#8220;The Rest Of Us&#8221; love it, but I why remove the efficiency?</p>
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		<title>By: ruggbutt</title>
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		<dc:creator>ruggbutt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 03:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I get an error when I run First Start CSMenu.  Missing an INF file that should be installed with the program.  I can&#039;t tell if this program is any good but I can tell you that it&#039;s a FAIL cuz First Run won&#039;t run.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I get an error when I run First Start CSMenu.  Missing an INF file that should be installed with the program.  I can&#8217;t tell if this program is any good but I can tell you that it&#8217;s a FAIL cuz First Run won&#8217;t run.</p>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 14:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Imo CSMenu sucks.  you cant add custom folders.  Here&#039;s a similar guide I found that allows you to add custom folders to the taskbar: 

http://nerdbusiness.com/blog/how-get-classic-start-bar-better-windows-7</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imo CSMenu sucks.  you cant add custom folders.  Here&#8217;s a similar guide I found that allows you to add custom folders to the taskbar: </p>
<p><a href="http://nerdbusiness.com/blog/how-get-classic-start-bar-better-windows-7" rel="nofollow">http://nerdbusiness.com/blog/h.....-windows-7</a></p>
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		<title>By: tanzanos</title>
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		<dc:creator>tanzanos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 12:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree that the vista and win 7 start menu is horrid. Also this applies to office 2007 as well. I tried to find the print button on word 2007 and gave up after about 10 minutes. Why anyone thinks that getting rid of drop down nested menus is an improvement is beyond me! With this application I am willing to install win 7 (just bought it yesterday)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree that the vista and win 7 start menu is horrid. Also this applies to office 2007 as well. I tried to find the print button on word 2007 and gave up after about 10 minutes. Why anyone thinks that getting rid of drop down nested menus is an improvement is beyond me! With this application I am willing to install win 7 (just bought it yesterday)</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes it is a shame as I love windows os and will never go MAC but linux looks better by the day with microsofts resistance to listen to its buyers. The user who have been loyal to microsoft for years now get the shaft. Looking around this seems to be a real major issue that is going to bite MS in the butt. Its a simple feature they own the script just add the options that way companys dont waste time and money on training, loyal windows users have a comfortable and yes much faster way of using thier computer as the new way is so hard and slows you down with the new menus and set up. I like 7 but I dont think i will even upgrade my vista machines to it unless they tweak it back to where its a user friendly os as xp was. I love xp personally not real big on vista as you have to mod it to make it run as well and fast as xp and 7 well they got to cute and let the techie writers get to techy with its design which now makes it useless to everyday users. I hate keyboard commands as they take to long and too many to remember I like a simple click of the mouse and there is the program i want. i do alot of web design so without my mouse it takes forever. Just set it as an option to have classic start and classic folder and control panel and 7 will succeed leave those options out and windows 7 will flop worse then vista. I know all those high dollar people at microssoft cant be that dumb its simple...KISS Keep It Simple Stupids</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes it is a shame as I love windows os and will never go MAC but linux looks better by the day with microsofts resistance to listen to its buyers. The user who have been loyal to microsoft for years now get the shaft. Looking around this seems to be a real major issue that is going to bite MS in the butt. Its a simple feature they own the script just add the options that way companys dont waste time and money on training, loyal windows users have a comfortable and yes much faster way of using thier computer as the new way is so hard and slows you down with the new menus and set up. I like 7 but I dont think i will even upgrade my vista machines to it unless they tweak it back to where its a user friendly os as xp was. I love xp personally not real big on vista as you have to mod it to make it run as well and fast as xp and 7 well they got to cute and let the techie writers get to techy with its design which now makes it useless to everyday users. I hate keyboard commands as they take to long and too many to remember I like a simple click of the mouse and there is the program i want. i do alot of web design so without my mouse it takes forever. Just set it as an option to have classic start and classic folder and control panel and 7 will succeed leave those options out and windows 7 will flop worse then vista. I know all those high dollar people at microssoft cant be that dumb its simple&#8230;KISS Keep It Simple Stupids</p>
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