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Wine versus a VM

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  • Started 5 years ago by BobJam
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BobJam
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I've been reading a lot about Wine lately, and the Wine page specifically states that it's easier on resources . . . flat out easier all around . . . than a VM.

Now that may be a lot of marketing hype or a case of the fox guarding the chickens . . . I really don't know. Which is why I'm asking the question here. I'm hoping that posters will give me a more unbiased list of pluses and minuses to each.

I'm tethered to Windows by virtue of Quicken and my on line banking. (I've looked at all the Ubuntu financial managers, and there is not one that does what I want . . . so I'm bound to Quicken.)

Currently I have a VM ("Sun Virtual Box") with XP on it, and I have loaded Quicken on it . . . and it works nicely. (Have the Guest Additions installed too, so it is seamless).

However, with all I've been reading about Wine, it may be a better way to go than the VM I am using. Don't know . . . which is again why I'm asking the question here.

My sense is that there are a lot of Wine users here that will give me their side, and there are a lot of VM users that will give me their side. With input like that, I'll be better able to decide which way to go for good.

One last note: I'm NOT a gamer. I say that because it seems like Wine is focused on gaming software, though I've seen that it certainly runs other software (Quicken is on it's Gold list). My only reason for using it would be Quicken.

I'm inclined to follow the truism "If it ain't broke, don't fix it". My VM runs fine and I can do my on line banking within it. But I want to take a look at what Wine may offer above a VM . . . if it does, that is.

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BobJam
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WINE seems a bit cranky. And I downloaded the latest version from the WINE repository.

I'm having trouble getting IE to work, plus Quicken, 7Zip, and explorer too. Sometimes they work completely, sometimes not, sometimes partially. Is premature to report the glitches to the WINE app database just yet.

I expect WINE needs a little tweaking to get these things working consistently, or else I need to learn my way around WINE better.

But the VM I'm using works flawlessly all the time. While WINE may reduce the overhead, I'm not so sure all the effort is going to be productive.

Will continue to mess with WINE, primarily because I like doing that sort of thing. But in the meantime, I have the VM and can use that for "serious" work.

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mikisu
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re the VirtualBox

If you are using it for banking security reasons,suggest that you be careful,as in fact the same amount of anti malware should be installed.

A Virtual Box isnt immune from attacks

A virtualiser like Sandboxie is a better bet.

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0zSpitt
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bob, i've tried wine. supposedly there's hundreds of windows apps that work on it. i've have very few that would and they didn't run all that great.

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BobJam
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@mikisu,

No, I have no choice . . . there is no analog, or version of Quicken, that runs with Ubuntu. Consequently, I either have to run it in a virtual machine running Windows, or WINE in Ubuntu (and as I said, WINE doesn't seem to work running Quicken). So the "choice" to run it in a VM is NOT really a choice. I'm using a VM NOT for security reasons, but rather that's the only alternative I have.

And YES, I'm running anti-malware software within the VM.

Sandboxie, likewise, doesn't run on Ubuntu. (I did use to use Sandboxie when my main OS was Windows . . . and may run it within the VM).

@OzSpitt,

Is good to know that it may not be "just me". Some praise WINE, some curse it. I think I may end up cursing it.

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USMCSNIPERgEEk
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Cedega

"Wine that works" MaximumPC

with a list of games guarenteed to run with it!

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jd2066
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Cedega is a commercial (I.E. Costs money) fork of Wine focused on gaming.
There is also a commercial fork of Wine for things like Microsoft Office and Quicken called Crossover Linux.
Wine can run some of those things but it's harder to set up.
There are a few free programs to help set up some programs with Wine like WineTools (Though it doesn't seem to do Quicken) and IEs4Linux (Sets up Internet Explorer).
Last time I tried it I was able to run a couple things in Wine like DVD Decrypter and with Crossover I could run Quicken 2006.
I didn't have much luck getting Microsoft Office to run at all nor running games with Cedega.
That was a few years ago though so things may have changed.

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BobJam
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I went with a VM completely . . . Wine was too much of a hassle. Am not even messing with it anymore. All I wanted was something to run my Quicken Delux 2007 and do my on line banking. Wine wouldn't do that . . . or maybe it would with a LOT of tweaking. Since the VM ran it flawlessly without any tweaking at all, it "won" the contest.

Maybe I could have gotten WINE to work, but I just lost interest in even messing with it.

I suspect WINE's failure had something to do with the fact that I couldn't even get it to run IE, therefore the Quicken on line banking session couldn't connect.

I'm not a gamer, so the use of WINE wasn't focused on that aspect . . . just the Quicken on line banking is all I wanted.

And to reiterate for mikisu, YES, I'm running the VM with anti-malware software.

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