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What's eating up the hard drive?

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Peterofnj
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This question is related to Window Vista system restore. I had used it several times and after each system restore, I usually go and delete all my previous restore points. I also go and delete all temp files in the Window/Temp folder and in application data/local/Temp folder. I then used system clean up to delete any memory errors and other junk files. Without turning system restore back on, I notice my disk space is smaller after around two system restores. Does anyone know what is eating up the hard drive?

It's easy to misunderstood this. Let say I have 2 gig in my hard drive.

Turning sytem restore on reduce my hard drive to 1.7 gig.

I used system restore once and after all the clean up, my hard drive is back to the original 2 gig.

I use system restore again and perform the same maintenance, except instead of being back to 2 gig, my hard drive is now 1.9 gig. This gradual reduction happened after every two system restores. My question is what is eating up that space?

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spacegrass56
spacegrass56
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I think the true question should be why are you having to system restore so many times? If the way you gave and explanation is how you are using the resore, once you turned it on then restored to a point prior to the system restore on it will show the origional 2gigs. Then you restore again and it goes to 1.9 gigs I am lost on that. I have noticed with out using system restore that Vista sometimes has an issue with calculating drive space.

Hope that you figure out why you need to restore so much and why the restore drive calculation happens.

Space`

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Peterofnj
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That's a really terrible response spacegrass56, not only did you not provide any useful help, you actually blame the problem on the user.

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Peterofnj
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Scott
Scott
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Are you cleaning up all but the last Restore Point? That might explain this behavior.

You can control the amount of space your restore points will use by following this:

http://www.howtogeek.com/howto.....-in-vista/

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Peterofnj
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Thanks for responding Scott, after a system restore, I'd go around and clean up any temp files, memory errors, unnecessary files and then I would turn off the system restore function so to purge all the unwanted restore points. What I notice is a small disk space being eat up. So I'm checking files or dumps that were created from using system restore, but could not locate what was doing so. I'm speculating that it could be some log that is getting bigger from this function, but I don't really know and will not delete any file(s) without fully comprehending what they are. I like to get to the bottom of this. Thanks for the helpful suggestion, but it's not amount of space the system restore use.

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michael
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Open Disk Cleanup, and then on the second tab, click the one to delete most recent restore points, and on the first tab, check everything and click OK. Do this a couple of times. You can also turn off System Restore, by right clicking "Computer", Advanced, select System Protection and turn it off there. Also consider Googling for CCleaner.

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Mike

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Peterofnj
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Thanks for responding Michael, I had done what you had suggested with the Disk Cleanup, but the result is the same.

I know what CCleaner is and I'm not using CCleaner because the problem reside on a separate offline computer. I had been checking folders and files one by one to verify them in order to know what they are. I had also look into the subject and even Microsoft home page for documentation, but this peculiarity isn't address. My guess is using system restore utility will bring Window back to the snapshot state, but at the same time, certain files get modify and that's what is eating up the hard drive (with or without system restore on). If that's the trade off, then there's not much to address. The unremitting aspect is that new computer don't come with a Window Vista disc, so reformatting and reinstalling Window to purge it from everything isn't an option.

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Scott
Scott
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It probably IS log and other small files that are growing. Any chance you can give us more specific information...are you dealing with a PC with extremely limited HD space or are you just curious? Not likely a reformat would change a thing, with every boot, internet session (not in your case) or running of an app new files would likely be created.

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Peterofnj
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Hi Scott, one of the folder that I suspect is the Prefetch folder, since that folder is part of how Window optimize itself, it's a no touch area. I don't see any other files that are change along with system restore. I know there was a log file that I purge, but that's a normal none critical file that Window document itself on any OS, so it's not that. Could it be it's the registry that is growing? That is beyond my ability to check and figure out.

I just want to figure this out because in the long haul (Vista is design to be) users will notice the same thing and will most likely inquire on the same matter. It’s not an issue in the short run, but down the road years from now people will want their disk space back.

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Scott
Scott
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Hello Peter,

In XP I would delete the contents of the prefetch folder regularly. I found many programs that I no longer used had taken up space there and no harm was done by cleaning it up.

In Vista, the only file present is the one for ReadyBoost, which I have enabled.

The registry will grow but not likely to impact the size of your hard drive.

No Vista disk or partition when you purchased? Very odd.

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Peterofnj
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Hi Scott,

Thanks for the respond. It's good to know I can delete the contents of the Prefetch folder, I will surely take another look into it.

The computer that I'm referring to is an Acer Aspire notebook. There's no Vista utility disk, not even driver backup. I had to download the entire set from Acer's home page. I had read from other forums that other who had brought Acer Notebook also don't have a Vista disk, so I guess that's just how it is. If Vista takes a hard crash, my only option is to buy another Vista OS, which I think isn't right.

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taybay
taybay
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Next time, try using this:

http://windirstat.info/

It provides a graphical representation of every file on your computer. You can see what individual files are taking up space or what groups of files are taking up space.

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Scott
Scott
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You may want to backup the entire drive. What's the fun in computing (used loosely) if you live in fear of a crash that requires a format?

My suggestion is to start a new thread on how best to achieve that.

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Peterofnj
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Thanks for the helpful link Taybay, I did look at the program windirstat. It seems what that program does is list files, give the location of the files and the size of the file. I think Vista has an adequent file search that more or less does the same thing. I don't want to install anything else that I don't need.

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Peterofnj
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Hi Scott,

I too love living on the edge, I always thought computer is suppose to facilitate life, not bring more issue to it (lol). I like to thank everyone for your helpful suggestions, I think the culprit is probably certain files expanding itself with the system restore utility upon usage. For now, I digress because it really is like an old cliché of looking for a needle in a haystack.

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