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SATA and ATA nonsense

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  • Started 5 years ago by wildarmsheero
  • Latest reply from 0zSpitt
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wildarmsheero
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I'm not really a hardware guy, so bear with me. Basically, I'm trying to install what I assume is an ATA harddrive into my new computer. It's old, but I figured I'd make use of its 250 gb. Problem is, seems my computer only has SATA connectors (and in fact, I cannot find another data connector... I'll check the box or maybe its hiding in the machine) ANYWAYS, I was wondering if there are any good converters for this stuff out there, and what you esteemed geeks would recommend. Thanks!

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whs
whs
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This may help http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_ATA
I think the answer to your question is "No".

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raphoenix
raphoenix
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wildarmsheero,

What make and model computer do you have ??

It indeed may not have a connector.

With the price of HDs so low now, I would suggest you just purchase another Sata HD of the same capacity and generation as your existing HD. Your existing board probably has (4) Sata connections.

It is a shame to have to throw away perfectly good components.

Just guessing because you didn't specify your machine.

Regards,
Rick P.

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wildarmsheero
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Dell XPS 420

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raphoenix
raphoenix
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wildarmsheero,

http://www.dell.com/content/pr.....&cs=04

Appears to be an ALL Sata proprietary motherboard.

No Comment on Dell Computers.

Regards,
Rick P.

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wildarmsheero
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Alright.

I've resolved just to get an external enclosure. That'll be easier.

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whs
whs
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Easier yes, but a lot slower too.

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jd2066
jd2066
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There are IDE to SATA adapters. You can look on sites like Newegg and find many of them.

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ScottW
ScottW
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An external drive connected to the eSATA port would not be slower, at least not according to the specs. I have never run an eSATA drive on a computer, so I don't know how the performance feels. I have connected one to a DVR and it's fast enough to record and play back high definition video. There are eSATA enclosures that will accept PATA drives and the XPS 420 has an eSATA port. This option may be more than most people need, but you can't say that an external drive *must* be slower.

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whs
whs
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I stand corrected - on an eSata port there should be little performance difference. I was thinking of a USB port because not all enclosures (especially the cheaper ones) support eSata.

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raphoenix
raphoenix
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@ wildarmsheero, ScottW and whs,

I have (1) Generation I 80 Gig old HD Seagate runing on the Internal port of the eSata controller in the case AND IT IS FAST !!!! In fact, "Feels" faster transacting info than the Generation II Satas running on the main Intel controller. wildarmsheero could purchase (1) Sata HD , run it on the internal eSata port and really add to his existing computer. GOOD IDEA ScottW !! Don't know why I forgot about this solution as I am actually running it as we speak. MUCH BETTER solution than a USB HD.

Regards "While in a Senior Moment",
Rick P.

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whs
whs
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Rick, you are absolutely right provided you have an eSata port. The XPS 420's I looked up on the Dell website did not seem to have that - they had just 6 USBs and 2 firewires. I wonder where ScottW saw that.

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ScottW
ScottW
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I followed the link that Rick posted above, clicked on Tech specs and saw this:

External Connections
Additional drives can connect to eSATA, 1394 and/or USB 2.0 ports.

I didn't try to confirm that all XPS 420 systems have an eSATA port.

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whs
whs
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I guess, because under "Ports", they don't mention it. I wonder whether that is the connection for the bay.

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raphoenix
raphoenix
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ALL,

Here is the Manual and as usual, can't find the third party manufacturer that made the MB.
http://support.dell.com/suppor.....pendix.htm

Suspect all skews of 420 have the same MB as that is the way Dell and others do things for (artificial) market differentiation.

Might have been a bit off base with my earlier posting as to run good eSata, MB should have a separate second HD controller however without motherboard specs, it is hard to tell where the 420 eSata port in coming from. Might be taking the place of another sata on-board port when connected.

Regards,
Rick P.

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0zSpitt
0zSpitt
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my eSATA is directly under the usb and right next to a 1394. i've added a lot of things so i'm not sure if all 420's come standard like this

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