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  • Started 1 year ago by tsmith777
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tsmith777
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Running win7 on a Dell 8500, using Ccleaner, SAS, Malwarebytes, Glary Utilities, and MSE. I don't know if one of these is the culprit or not, but my restore points are being deleted every other day, sometimes it leaves the last one for system safety and sometimes it deletes that one too. any ideas?

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Something is deleting those restore points... Process of elimination - MSE does not delete restore points. CCleaner can, but only manually by user. Hopefully, others can comment on the rest.

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tsmith777
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I did the process of elimination and still cannot find the culprit

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whs
whs
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If anything, it would be the Glary stuff. I use all the other programs since years and never lost a restore point.

Another problem could be the size of your shadowstorage. If it is too small, old restore points will be deleted to make room for new ones. Check the size of your shadowstorage. The command is:

vssadmin list shadowstorage

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tsmith777
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whs, how do I check the size of the shadowstorage?

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tsmith:

1. To check size allocated for restore points: control panel - system - system protection - select the drive (usually your C drive) - configure - then position the slider to reflect the size you want.

2. Separately -- do you run MS Disk Clean? That one can delete restore points too -- if you want it to.

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tsmith777
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Yes, I do run ma disk clean

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tsmith777
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The size slider is set in the middle. disk storage 11.55gigs, current usage 7.5gigs

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tsmith777
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I am not having the problem with my Toshiba laptop, the setting on it are slider almost completely to the left, total 10.00gigs. usage 1.24gigs. it has 5 restore points that have been there since Jan 14th, so no problem. Also running all of the same applications including Win 7

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Seems to me you have a heck of a lot more data on your Dell??

Dell - set to 11.55 G and current is already using 7.5G -- and that's just one (or perhaps two) restore point(s), correct? Makes sense that your system is deleting old restore point every other day...

Toshiba - set for 10G -- with five restore points using only 1.24 G? Given usage is only a small fraction of total -- then more restore points can accumulate without worries of older ones getting deleted.

Finally, when you run MS Disk Cleanup - do you click on the "More Options" tab to clean system restore points? THAT will erase all restore points except for the most recent one.

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tsmith777
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No, I don't click on more options in ms disk clean up, how do I clean up the excess data on the Dell, and fix the deleting of the restore points?

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whs
whs
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11.5GB is plenty of shadowstorage. It's good for 12 to 20 restore points (depends on size of data in C)

PS, use CCleaner for cleanup.

Just to let you know, restore points are not very reliable. Use imaging instead: http://www.sevenforums.com/tut.....html?ltr=I

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whs:

OP said something in his Dell system is clearing out all but one restore points every other day. And yet, out of the 11.55G allocated storage, his one or two remaining restore points are still occupying more than half of that space (7.5G)! So given what he said, then no, his allocation is not adequate at all.

tsmith:

If you want to keep more restoration points, then allocate more space accordingly (say 30G or more) -- or else look at your system and see what is occupying so much space.

How big is your hard disk and how much of it is being used?

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whs
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A restore point takes 500MB to 1GB. No idea where the 7.5GBs come from. There must be more than 2 restore points. I wish the OP would look it up in cmd with vssadmin. Any other method is unreliable.

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Yes, I was taken back by the 7.5GB figure as well -- but basing on what he said, he shouldn't have more than 1 or 2 restore points if in fact something is deleting those points 'every other day'.

I have two restore points currently, and they occupy about 2G total.

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tsmith777
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I use Ccleaner daily and that dosen't seem to help, My hard drive is 1T. I currently have one restore point dated today accordng to Ccleaner

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warlock
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What I would do is follow the advice of whs above and make a system image. Then can go from there to check on restore point problem.

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You got 1,000GB (1T) -- and you allocate a measly 11GB for your restore points?

1. Go ahead and allocate 30GB for your restore points.
2. As above, if you haven't done a system backup -- do so -- plus make yourself a bootable rescue disk. I like EaseUS. It's reliable, easy to use, and free. Everyone should have both system backup and a couple of Windows restore points.

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tsmith777
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whs, I ran cmd vssadmin and it said it not a valid command and it had little information, it says, delete volume shadow copies,
List registered Volume shadow copy providers, .
List shadows- List existing volume, List shadow storage- List volume shadow copy stroage associations.
List volumes eligable for shadow copies
List subscribed volume shadow copy writers
Resize a volume shadow copy storage

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tsmith777
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I have a system backup already and I have a bootable rescue disk. I will change the restore points and make it 30gigs. I tried to change it to 30 gigs, but at max it will only got to 26.25 gigs that is the max it will allow.

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