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New System Wont Boot From CD. Can't Install Windows

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SamDenst
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So I just built my new system with the following parts and am trying now to install Windows, but it keeps giving me this error message:

"Marvell adapter initializing bios version ..xyz...
Adapter 1
No hard disk is detected"

and then after that it says...

"reboot and select proper boot device or insert boot media in selected boot device"

My components are:

ASUS P6T Deluxe V2 LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard
Intel Core i7-950 Bloomfield 3.06GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80601950
OCZ Platinum 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Low Voltage Desktop Memory Model OCZ3P1600LV6GK
Western Digital VelociRaptor WD3000HLFS 300GB 10000 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM (system drive)
Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drives - OEM (X2)
LG Black Blu-ray/HD DVD-ROM & 16X DVD±R DVD Burner SATA Model GGC-H20L
EVGA 017-P3-1294-AR GeForce GTX 295 1792MB 896 Bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card
Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate SP1 64-bit

I only have my CDrom drive and 1 HD connected via SATA cables at the moment. Then I went into BIOS and set the boot priority to go CDROM, then HDD.

And it still gives me this error message.

On the Main Page of BIOS it lists SATA 1, SATA 2, SATA 3 etc all the way to SATA 6. And under SATA 1 it show the HDD and Under SATA 2 it shows the CDROM drive. So I know it sees them.

Also under "storage configuration" there is a section called "Configure SATA as" and the options are: IDE, RAID, and AHCI. It's currenly on IDE.

What could be the problem? Thanks for anyone who can help.

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Hermitt
Hermitt
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Do you have a CDRom drive or a DVDRom drive?

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SamDenst
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LG Black Blu-ray/HD DVD-ROM & 16X DVD±R DVD Burner SATA Model GGC-H20L
http://www.newegg.com/Product/.....6827136133

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ScottW
ScottW
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SamDenst, hello. Nice build you have there! Did you update the motherboard to the latest BIOS version? It can't hurt and it might help. Also, for the maximum benefit of SATA devices, set them to AHCI which is Advanced Host Controller Interface. This enables advanced features of the SATA spec. Still, it's unlikely to be the cause of the boot failure.

OK, I have found the manual at Asus's website. It says that when you enable AHCI, there is a new menu for the SATA devices (pg. 85, 3.3.7). It says that you might need to increase the boot timeout value for some some CD/DVD drives, so you might try that.

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SamDenst
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Scott, thanks so much for your help.

No I did not update the BIOS yet. Can I do that before installing Windows? If so how?

I'll enable AHCI and increase the timeout value and repost with the results.

Thanks again!

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SamDenst
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Arrgh, well I enabled AHCI and then looked to incrase the timeout value, but it was already set to the maximum (35 secs). Still the same result.

Any other thoughts?

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ScottW
ScottW
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Sam, you can and should update the BIOS before installing Windows, unless you already have the latest. Get the latest BIOS from the "Download" tab at the motherboard's webpage at Asus. It looks like 0504 is the most recent, from 25 May, 2009. If you look at the manual, page 71 section 3.1, there are several ways to update the BIOS. It's actually almost ridiculous. My preference is to use EZ Flash 2 and a USB flash drive. If you have a diskette drive and diskettes, you can do it that way, but they don't hold much. A USB key can hold the new BIOS image and the backup of the old image. Be sure to do the backup before flashing the new BIOS, just in case.

I'm still looking in the manual for possible reasons why the Vista DVD won't find the hard drive.

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ScottW
ScottW
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So, I've been looking through the manual some more. The primary storage controller is the Intel ICH10R, which handles SATA 1-6. There is a secondary storage controller, the Marvell, which handles the IDE (PATA) ports and the eSATA ports. You have nothing connected here, which is why the Marvell prints out the message "No hard disk is detected". If you wanted to get rid of this message, you could disable the Marvell Storage ROM in the BIOS, but keep in mind that this will prevent booting from a PATA/IDE device or an eSATA device should you ever connect one and wish to boot from it. Nothing about this secondary controller should be interfering with a boot from the primary controller.

Which SATA ports do you have your hard drive and CD/DVD drive connected to? I see that the 1 - 4 SATA connectors are hanging off the side of the board at a right angle, and the 5 & 6 are sticking up when looking down on the board.

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SamDenst
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Scott, you are awesome. I just have to say that. I've been talking with people all over the internet about this all day and you are the first person to understand what is going on and to get this far with me. I still haven't fixed it yet, but thanks for at least that.

Anyway, I just finished updating the BIOS like you suggested to 0504, so that's all done.

That's very interesting about the 2 controllers. This is starting to make more sense now. Yes, you are correct, I have no IDE devices. All my HD's are SATA and my BlueRay DVDROM is also SATA so I have no problem disabling the Marvell Storage ROM in the BIOS. Do you know where that is located to disable?

As for which SATA connectors the HDD and DVDRom are connected to I feel like I tried a bunch of combos. First it was 1&2, then some 1&3. Currently the HDD is located on 1 and the DVD is on 5. You are correct about the locations. 5&6 are sticking up.

Which ones should they be in? Keep in mind I also have 2 other HDDs so 3 in total. Just that the other 2 aren't hooked up yet as I thought I'd keep it simple first until I get things working and get Windows installed. Then after I did all of that I thought I'd install the other 2 drives. Is that a good plan or should I do them all at once?

Thanks again for staying with me here.

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SamDenst
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Ok so I found the Marvell Storage Boot ROM in the BIOS. There is also a Marvell Storage Controller, Marvell LAN 1 and Marvell LAN 2. Do I disable all of those?

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SamDenst
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Ok so I experimented and it looks like the the Marvell Storage Boot ROM is a sub option of the Marvell Storage Controller. So if I disable the Controller, the Marvell Storage Boot ROM automatically disappears and is not an option any more. Also under Marvell LAN 1 and Marvell LAN 2 there is a sub option called just LAN Boot Rom. If both of the Marvell LAN 1 & 2 are disabled then the LAN boot ROM goes away and is not an option any more.

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SamDenst
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So I tried disabling / enabling all of the previous Marvell options and none of them fixed the ultimate Boot from DVDRom drive problem, but the "Marvell adapter initializing bios version ..xyz... Adapter 1 No hard disk is detected" message is now gone. So that's good.

Another note is that I found when I disabled the Marvell Storage Controller and the Marvell Storage Boot ROM and enabled the LAN Boot ROM it gets a little further in the boot process. It goes to a screen that says "Yukon PXE V. 6.15.1.3" at the top and then goes through some tests. One says Client MAC ADDR:002618086AF2, then GHID and some more numbers and then DHCP.....and a curser that blinks from / to \ and will sit there for 20 seconds or so until it says "PXE-E61: Media Test Failure" and the ends with my favorite "reboot and select proper boot device or insert boot media in selected boot device".

Any other thoughts?

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ScottW
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Sam, thanks for the kind words. Regarding the SATA ports, some motherboards are picky about which ones are used for boot devices. From what I see in the manual, this board is not one of them. So if you are seeing the same results with the HDD and DVD in 1 & 2, 1 & 3, or 1 & 5, then that is further proof that this is not related to the boot problem.

There is merit to your plan of starting with one hard drive to reduce complexity. However, I would also recommend that after you have licked this boot problem to get those drives added in as soon as possible. It's also a good idea with a new build to load it up with all the parts and do some stress testing. I didn't see a power supply listed above -- what kind do you have?

For the Marvell Storage Controller, my recommendation was only to disable the Boot ROM. That will get rid of the "no drive found" message. If you disable the entire controller, the eSATA ports won't work and neither will the PATA/IDE ports. So the question you have to ask yourself is this: "If I connect an eSATA or PATA drive, 12 to 18 months or more in the future, and it doesn't work, will I remember that I disabled the controller?"

For the LAN Controllers, it's the same story. You should leave the controllers enabled, just disable the Boot ROM. When you enable the LAN Boot ROM, it is trying to boot from the network which requires a server on the LAN hosting a boot image. The message about "PXE" and the "MAC ADDR" is all related to an attempt to boot over the network that ends in the "Media Test Failure". This should also have no effect on booting from the primary SATA controller.

What is in your boot sequence?

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SamDenst
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My PSU is PC Power & Cooling Silencer PPCS910 910W ATX12V 2.2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/.....6817703022

My boot sequence was

CDROM:P1-HL-DT-ST

then

WDC WD3000HLF

and

Disabled

Then I tried just having CDROM:P1-HL-DT-ST and disabling all others but that still didn't work.

Some people have said that they tried building similar systems recently and had problems trying to boot from a SATA CDDVD drive and had to switch to IDE drive to make it finally work. So I'm considering going to the store to buy a basic IDE DVD Burner to see if that fixes it. I know the disc works since I tried it in another machine.

What do you think?

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ScottW
ScottW
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That sounds like a good plan. Remember that you will need to enable the Marvell Storage Boot ROM to boot from a PATA/IDE drive.

So, from what you have read about others with the same problem, did anyone pinpoint the source of the problem? A system that can't boot from a SATA CD/DVD is flawed somehow. Does it seem that the motherboard is the cause or the DVD drive?

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SamDenst
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No, they didn't specify. But I'll ask. I agree it's a pretty important distinction to know. Thanks.

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