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My dream computer

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  • Started 4 months ago by smorton
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smorton
Posts: 143

I am thinking about having a computer custom made. I have an astute IT person who can do this. I am looking for ideas and input.

I use my computer for my business. I really like to watch movies on my computer also.

Scenario 1: Have him make a Mac and then use VMware to rune Windows XP, Windows 7 and Ubuntu. Maybe this can't be done. I want this to be fast but I am not a gamer. I use Windows because of my profession. The Mac thing would just be for fun.

Scenario 2: Do the above, but forget the Mac.

Scenario 3. I can't think of it.

Any input highly welcome.

SM

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Dcw329
Posts: 160

saying you want him to make a mac, but have it in windows 7 is like telling a chef "make me a steak, but make it taste like a crab" lol...

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smorton
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I guess my goal was to have the best of several worlds, Mac, Windows and ubuntu. Is this foolish or unpractical? Windows for work, the other stuff for fun.

Thank

sm

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whs
whs
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If you forget about the Mac part, any $500 desktop off the shelf will do for what you plan to use it for. If required, you can then still enhance it with e.g. a better graphics and/or an SSD. I would think that is the cheapest approach.

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jmcguire
jmcguire
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I would have to agree with whs.

If you are using a computer for "business" purposes and watching movies. Pre-built computers around $500 will usually cover it.

The only time you need a "beast" of a computer is when you are building a gaming machine, a machine to do video editing, a machine to do INTENSIVE photoshop, or a machine to do CAD work.

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smorton
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I used to do Photoshop and I worked with some huge files. That is probably the only way to justify the "beast." If I buy a new desk top now, won't I be stuck with Vista and or/ a beta version of Windows 7?

Would the SSD be worth it? I am very intrigued by them.

Thanks

sm

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whs
whs
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For photoshop you would probably mostly need RAM and a midrange graphics card - nothing exotic. The SSDs are really fast when it comes to access. I have a 60GB OCZ Vertex that I tried with W7 - it boots in 10 sec. http://www.guru3d.com/article/.....sd-review/
Why do you think you will be "stuck" with Vista or W7. What other option is there unless you want to go Linux (yucky). You could, of course, buy one of those $2000 Apple toys. But then you confine yourself to a very small selection of software (and viruses - LOL) and the amortization takes 3 times as long.

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smorton
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I haven't heard good things about Vista. I had a fellow built a Hackintosh for me which I use with KVM switches. But in reality, I hardly ever use the Mac. How is Windows 7? Ready for prime time? My thought would to have him build me another one with good specs.

What processor, ram and other things should I look at? Ubuntu=not good (yucky)

thanks

sm

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whs
whs
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You should not go by hearsay. Vista is an excellent system (I run 4 Vistas). Windows7 will be available by Oct. 22, but right now you can run the RC which is stable. Again, for what you want to do, I would look for a system off the shelf.

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jmcguire
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@whs
I despise your hatred of Linux. :)

@smorton
In your case, I would go for a system off the shelf, or a customized one from Dell or a similar company. I would definitely take advantage of the Windows 7 upgrade, because Vista... yucky :)

In all seriousness though, Windows 7 will be much better. Vista is in many ways the black sheep of the Windows family. (Windows ME is that part of the Windows family that never gets invited to reunions, has been airbrushed out of all the family pictures, etc.) For some, as whs will attest to, it gives no issues, for others, like myself, it is a headache. I know this isn't a "hate Vista" topic, but it took me about 2 hours to get my girlfriends Vista computer to recognize the network correctly at college. It kept thinking there were three connections (thought only one cord was connected and the wireless was off), and none of those connections could see "The Internet" (they were all treated as LAN). Her roommates XP computer took 2 seconds to connect.

Back to the topic at hand though. Even if you plan on doing Photoshop, you can upgrade RAM and a video card at a later date. The "beast" computer I was referring to literally would be for EXTREMELY INTENSIVE work, mainly CAD and Video Editing. For the non professional, RAM and Video Card (as whs stated), if fine for Photoshop. In fact, for a professional using Photoshop, the only other thing I could see them needing would be a faster processor (though I cannot confirm that).

I have to agree with whs that a pre-built will suit your needs, and you get the benefit of the entire computer having a warranty in one place.

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@whs
I mean no offense with the Linux/Vista comments. They are all in good fun.

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whs
whs
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Josh, I don't hate Linux - not at all. In fact, I was running Ubuntu and EasyPeasy myself (in virtual machines) - and also Fedora from a USB stick. I just think it is a very uncomfortable OS as compared to Vista or W7. You have to do a lot more command line action in order to get things done than I like to do.

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deanmitc
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whs, At the risk of incurring the ridicule of those who are so much more tech-savvy than I, I would suggest that you take a look at the Alienware M17 laptop. It is a beast of a machine and is reasonably priced for all that it offers. As an unusual offering versus the other manufacturers, this machine has a unique finish and offers Vista Ultimate in the 32-bit variety, and it is awesome. I came from a laptop with XP and dreaded going to Vista but the experience has been significantly better than people are reporting. The M17 is customizable and is awesome....how they avoid cornering the market on high performance machines is a puzzle to me.

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whs
whs
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That looks like a nice gaming system indeed - although I never do any gaming. I have deleted all games (even Hearts) from my systems. But the base price here in Germany is €1300 ($1820) and that is without the quad core and the high end graphics. The only one in the family that uses laptops is the wife. And all she does is AOL and Ebay. I prefer desktops because I need a big screen due to my poor eyesight. But you are right - it is an amazing machine.

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smorton
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I had an old Dell with Windows XP. I have it wiped clean and the person installed an OS X system on it. He assured me this was legal. I have a kvm switch but I don't use the OS X much for some reason.

I am a little lost here. I want a lot of ram. How much is right? I currently have 3 gb on this machine and I would want more. Also I no nothing about processors. What kind is recommended?

Any other thoughts are appreciated.

sm

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whs
whs
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You should ask yourself for what you want all that RAM. With a 32bit OS, 3GB is ideal. It should be plenty for normal operation. Only exotic graphics or CAD applications would want more RAM. And then you have to move to a 64bit OS.
The processor depends on what you want to do with it. From the short overview in your first post I would conclude that any midrange CPU will do. I personally prefer a fast duo core over a slower quad core. In my experience, the duo core handles normal operation better. A lot will depend on the motherboard you select. Not all CPUs can be matched with all mobos.

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smorton
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Where would I go to get an "off the shelf" computer. I live in an isolated area?

thanks

sm

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whs
whs
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Where do you live - country, zip code?

Here are some good desk top deals in the US that you can order on-line. http://www.deals2buy.com/more/c195.htm
This model looks very attractive for little money.

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jmcguire
jmcguire
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@smorton
Chances are that no matter how and isolated area you live in, there is a Wal-Mart, and they have a few nice PCs.

Many retailers (including Wal-Mart) deliver. (I am pretty sure Best Buy and Office Depot deliver)

There is also CircuitCity.com, TigerDirect.com (which I discovered are either exactly the same or VERY close), and others.

If nothing else Dell.com will deliver.

*EDIT* - The computer that whs posted looks to be a good bang for your buck as well, and it would be worth checking into, if it would qualify for the free Windows 7 upgrade.

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Dcw329
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you have a circuitcity in your town? you do realise they all closed down by now right? when was the last time you went to it?

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Aleeve
Aleeve
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I have had no issues with Vista, and really don't see the problem with it.
I know we have had this argument countless times, but I still don't understand peoples' misconceptions (in my opinion) of it

If you are still concerned about Vista a good few years after it was released, would it not be a little risky from your point of view going straight into Windows 7?

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