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Geeks New Computer, Memory Configuration not Dual Channel

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  • Started 6 months ago by jraparrish
  • Latest reply from InDiSent
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jraparrish
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I was looking at the pictures of your new computer this morning and noticed you installed the DIMM's in a non-dual channel configurarion. Was that on purpose? And if so, can you explain why? Otherwise, unless your ASUS board had different directions, the modules should be placed in A1 + A2(Black + Black)for dual channel operation. Your picture shows them in A1 + B1(Black + Yellow). Just an observation.

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InDiSent
InDiSent
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i didn't even notice that, good catch.

Posted 6 months ago #
 
thegeek
The Geek
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@jraparrish

The manual actually says those two slots are A1+A2, even though one is yellow and one is black... but the real reason I put them in those two slots is that I'm adding another 2 dimms, so all of them will be full =)

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xenomex
xenomex
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Thanks Geek.

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jraparrish
Posts: 75

I miss spoke, the picture shows you populated A1 + A2, in section 2.4.2 of the manual A1 + B1 is the Dual Channel configuration if you only populate 2 of the 4 slots. But the point is moot if you are going to populate them all. Are you running Vista 64bit? or a Linux Distro? That thing should scream. Great site and Forum. I personally appreciate your work on the site. Thanks.

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thegeek
The Geek
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I looked in the manual, you are correct... I figured it wasn't too important since I'm just waiting for the rest to come in the mail =)

I'm running Vista 64-bit, and it's screaming fast... I wanted more memory so I can run more virtual machines at the same time. The quad-core is awesome... I changed the affinity so vmware runs on two CPUs, which keeps my regular system from slowing down while running the virtual machines

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jraparrish
Posts: 75

That is Awesome, we have a couple of dozen Windows 2003 Servers running on VM Ware and the physical hardware can really get stretched if you don't have the horsepower to run them.

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ScottW
ScottW
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We were discussing dual channel memory in another thread and I went to Wikipedia to look for references. They have a pointer to an article from Tom's Hardware Group that says there is little benefit to dual channel memory configurations in the benchmarks they used:
http://www.tomshardware.com/20.....age11.html

It makes me wonder if the whole dual channel thing is a marketing scheme to get everyone to buy 2 DIMMs instead of 1. Have we all been duped? The idea of dual channel sounds good on paper, but I've seen plenty of sounds-good-on-paper ideas that are just hype.

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whs
whs
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With benchmarks it is like with statistics - you first define the result and then you pick the samples accordingly. Dual channels must be faster - but not neccessarily in all instances. It's like with my new Intel Q6600 quad. I thought it would be faster than a duo core in all cases - not so. For e.g. the installation of SP1 it took nearly twice as much time than my AMD duo core.

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InDiSent
InDiSent
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@ The Geek - I use vmware workstation 6.0.3. How do you set the affinity?

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thegeek
The Geek
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@InDiSent: I simply used task manager to set them... but you could modify the shortcut to run all of vmware with a separate affinity, I imagine:
http://www.howtogeek.com/howto.....ows-vista/

I haven't checked to see if that will run the virtual machines themselves that way. I need to look into this more... setting it manually worked out fine for me =)

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whs
whs
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I checked some of my processes. Affinity is always assigned to all 4 processors. Is it the task manager now that decides to which processor to assign a process and how good a job does it do?
BTW: Isn't it dumb that the processors (cores) always start counting with 0 and everybody else starts with 1.

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thegeek
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Everything internally in programming terms starts with 0, although I suppose they could have changed the UI to be more user-friendly.

Windows determines all of the threading and processor usage allocation internally, you can just change some of the settings from task manager if you want.

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whs
whs
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Any idea how good a job Vista does managing 4 cores. Assuming that Vista does a good job, why would I want to change the core assignments?

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thegeek
The Geek
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It's more that in case VMware goes crazy and takes 100% of the cpu, I want to continue to have fast performance in the rest of the system.

Vista does a pretty good job of threading across multple cores, especially with 64-bit and lots of memory.

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InDiSent
InDiSent
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ok, so i am running windows xp sp3 pro. i have a pentium 4 3.04Ghz cpu. CPU 0 and CPU 1 is because of hyper threading? Should i set vms to use only cpu 1? Thanks.

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thegeek
The Geek
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No... hyper threading isn't a true CPU, so I wouldn't use the affinity settings at all.

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InDiSent
InDiSent
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that's what i thought. Hopefully i can build my quad core system this summer if my wife stops spending all of my money, lol.

Posted 6 months ago #
 
thegeek
The Geek
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So you are saying you'll Never buy a quad core system? That's not a very pleasant outlook :-P

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InDiSent
InDiSent
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lol

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