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  • Started 5 years ago by Hydro
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raphoenix
raphoenix
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@0zSpitt,

Take Budohorseman's advice above.
The Gigabyte board is Good.
I am just too biased toward Asus to really make objective decisions.
"Like an old pair of shoes that fit so well" (LOL) (LOL).
Kindest Regards,
Rick P. ♥ :)

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0zSpitt
0zSpitt
Posts: 1037

thanks, and i have read tom's hardware

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Hydro
Posts: 13

Rick P,

I am going to review the info tonight and either refine my questions, or post a new system with revised components, or both.

Thanks again for the insights and comments.

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Hydro
Posts: 13

Based on come comments and input (and enough research to get me into trouble) here is the revised build. First, what was changed were the following items:

1. I deleted the second DVD drive

2. I changed to a different V-Card than the EVGA 512-P3-N800-AR GeForce 8800 GT 512MB 256-bit DGGR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card-----listed in the first build but apparently an aged unit.

3. I deleted the HD docking station and am considering a standard enclosure external Hard Drive, but am concerned about overheating.

4. Changed to a faster Duo Core from the orginal Quad Core.

Anyway, here's how it looks now:

Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 Wolfdale 3.16GHz 6MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/.....6819115036

GIGABYTE GA-EP35-DS3L LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/.....6813128337

RAIDMAX SMILODON Extreme Black ATX-612WEB 1.0mm SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Foldout MB Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/.....6811156078

SAPPHIRE 100242L Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/.....6814102747

CORSAIR CMPSU-550VX 550W ATX12V V2.2 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/.....6817139004

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F1 HD753LJ 750GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/.....6822152100

LITE-ON Black 20X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 20X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA DVD Burner with LightScribe - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/.....6827106073

HP LP2065 Silver-Carbonite 20" 8ms LCD Monitor with Height & Pivot Adjustments 300 cd/m2 800:http:

G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1000 (PC2 8000) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory

Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate SP1 64-bit English 1pk DSP OEI DVD for System Builders

And under consideration:

ASUS P5Q Pro LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/.....6813131299
(Rick P, could I just ask you if, in your opinion, this Mobo is a fit with the items above? I know I should read the book, but if you already know the answer and can share it with me, I will put in three days in a soup kitchen for the homeless----which may be easier than learning about motherboards.

and a couple of folks recommended a quality DDR2 800 Ram instead of the one above, but NewEgg didn't have the Kingston RAM they mentioned. Any thoughts? how about this one: CORSAIR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory

Also, some said that the Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 Wolfdale 3.16GHz 6MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor would run faster than the Q6600 Kentsfield Quad Core I listed before in most operations, excepting video editing. I will do some light video editing and rendering, so I am still fence sitting a bit here. I'm sure either one will be a vast improvement from what I have now. Any further thoughts?

Again, I am proabaly not going to be up to speed in all facets of these components. I just saw the system that my son's friend helped him put together, and it looked easy enough that I thought I would give it a try. That computer by all reports (he's away in college now) is going strong. I want to improve on those components where I can, but I am afraid I will overlook a compatability issue---and am hoping to avoid that by this post.

Thanks, all.

RICK

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jack7h3r1pp3r
jack7h3r1pp3r
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umm...well all looks really good and should be really fast!!!! but the video card seems to be out of stock at newegg so are you going to be waiting for them to get it in stock again before you buy?

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Hydro
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Hi Jack! Yeah, I saw that. I don't mind waiting if it's not too long. Any recommendations for an equal? I'm not a gamer, though I may let my kids on if I want to be a nice guy. The V-Card is not all that important for Photo Editing I hear, but since I doing this I'd like to get something decent.

Would you go for the alternate Mobo and RAM? Any thoughts on the processor Duo Core/Quad Core issue?

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jack7h3r1pp3r
jack7h3r1pp3r
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i think that for basic tasks the faster dual cores will be better than the quads but if you are really getting into some heavy work or vm's then they can be a bit better for that but things just aren't optimized for the quads yet to be faster for normal user activities. and for the card i will see what i can find do you prefer ati over nvidia or doesn't it matter?

edit: as far as the boards go they are pretty much the same exept the asus has 2 pci e 16X slots but you only need that for dual video cards any ways. whick you state you are not a hard core gamer so you wont need that.

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Hydro
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I don't know enough to have a preference. Something reliable that works with well with this build, I guess.

Thanks!

RICK

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jack7h3r1pp3r
jack7h3r1pp3r
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also do you have a price range on the video card? or just in the general price range of the other listed?

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Budohorseman
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Hey Hydro, looks like you're looking at my processor (about six months after I got mine, sigh). As for RAM, any of the big names (Kingston, Crucial, OCZ (my favorite), G.Skill, Patriot) will do, just look for aggressive timings (if you plan to overclock, listed in a 5-5-5-12 type format and the smaller the numbers the better) with heat shields.

As for Dual v. Quad core, well more bang for your buck with the Dual, and by your next upgrade application developers will be programming for Quad cores (heck most programs do not take advantage of Dual cores right now, and I am talking about new software).

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jack7h3r1pp3r
jack7h3r1pp3r
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here is a card that should do the trick: http://www.newegg.com/Product/.....6814103060

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whs
whs
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I like this configuration much better than the previous one - especially the switch to the Wolfdale processor. You will have much more power with that over the Q6600. ( I also like AMD's because of their faster FSB, but they have nothing in 45nm). The graphics card that jack posted looks nice and for the price you can't argue. I would stay away from any overclocking - that just spells trouble. No need to do that with this configuration.

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raphoenix
raphoenix
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Hydro,
Thanks for the compliments but I'm no expert.
I've just built a "ton" of stuff for fun and friends (LOL).
Your MB pick is out of the "Sweet Spot" in competitive pricing - NOT Good.
"Sweet Spot" is normally $190-$230 for most popular builder boards with good recommendations and NO frills.
Here is an old tried and true stand by from ASUS that will do most anything.
Read the Specs Carefully.
http://usa.asus.com/products.a.....2&l4=0

If you go higher than this in pricing, you are getting into elaborate X48 gaming MBs.
If you go lower, you are getting into outdated or upgraded MBs.
Put some components on this one and see how it fits your budget plus "wants".
NO-GO on HP Monitor
NO-GO on Mid Tower
NO-GO on HDs
NO-GO on DVD

Kindest Regards,
Rick P. ♥ :)

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whs
whs
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Rick, I have two of the same HP monitors (HP w2207h - they also come in 20 inch) and I love them. So "NO_GO" on HP monitors does not find my approval. But I am not familiar with the LP2065 - maybe that is different.

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jack7h3r1pp3r
jack7h3r1pp3r
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and why no on the mid tower?

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raphoenix
raphoenix
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@WHS & Jack,

NO-GO on the monitor because I do (NOT) know what (OEM) makes the monitor for HP. If I knew, it might be a GO.
HP will tell you anything you want to hear to make a sale.
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A mid tower is too small from experience. I always recommend a FULL TOWER for space, cooling and adding stuff in the future. Remember, a good metal case will out last all the other components in the build.

Kindest Regards,
Rick P. ♥ :)

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jack7h3r1pp3r
jack7h3r1pp3r
Posts: 2815

@rick i have a mid tower and i seem to have enough space and that was my first build and i also have a full tower and it takes up a ton of space and more room than i will ever need in it and i don't think that he will have a prob with cooling because he said he's not doing any hardcore tasks like gaming and such.

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raphoenix
raphoenix
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@Jack,

I see your point and don't disagree that much.
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However, my builds usually have at least (4) HDs (RAID) and some (6) plus (2) Optical drives and a Floppy Drive so I normally recommend a Full Tower because things can get a bit crowed with all card slots filled, many drives and the wiring mess inside. Also, I don't have small hands so working on a Full Tower is a bit easier for me.
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Just my own preference only.

Kindest Regards,
Rick P. ♥ :)

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jack7h3r1pp3r
jack7h3r1pp3r
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ya i guess if you have that much stuff in there you would need a full tower but i only have one hdd and a dvd/cd burner and some times a floppy drive

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raphoenix
raphoenix
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@Jack,

I see what you mean with your configuration.
However, if someone is going to do a build with a RAID MB, they will eventually end up with (4) HDs or more so that is why I know computer cases can get Crowed Up pretty quickly from experience.

Kindest Regards,
Rick P. ♥ :)

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