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Building gaming PC for under 1000

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  • Started 2 months ago by civics123
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civics123
Posts: 5

I am building my first computer and here are the parts I am interested in:

Case
$129.99
ABS Aplus ABS-CS-EL Diablo Black 0.8mm SECC ATX Full Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/.....6811215006

Motherboard
$219.99
XFX MB-N780-ISH9 LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 780i SLI Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/.....rce%20780i

Power supply
$129.99
ABS Tagan ITZ Series ITZ800-V2 800W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Certified CrossFire Ready Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/.....6817814006

Processor
$189.99
Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 Wolfdale 3.16GHz 6MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/.....6819115036

CPU Fan
$53.99
ZALMAN CNPS9700 LED 110mm 2 Ball CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/.....6835118019

DVD/CD Drive
$27.99
SAMSUNG Black 22X DVD+R 22X DVD-R 16X DVD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 22X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe
http://www.newegg.com/Product/.....6827151173

Harddrive
$41.99
Western Digital Caviar SE WD1600AAJS 160GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/.....6822136075

Memory
$68.99
A-DATA 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/.....6820211188

All together is is around 900. I already have a 19 inch LCD I can use and an 8800 GT video card.

Thanks for any advice.

Posted 2 months ago #
 
whs
whs
Posts: 6322

Why a Mobo with triple SLI if you have only one 8800GT?
The Wolfdale is a good choice.
A 160GB harddrive is a little skimpy.

Posted 2 months ago #
 
civics123
Posts: 5

I will eventually get 2 more 8800GT's and get a bigger harddrive, but at the moment, the 900 price tag drained my wallet,lol.

Thanks for the comment.

Posted 2 months ago #
 
whs
whs
Posts: 6322

Understand. Btw: Did you read the reviews about the ABS Aplus? Not too exiting - especially in view of the venting for the future triple 8800's. Some fancy disco lights is not everything. You can probably get some more practical box for less money.

Posted 2 months ago #
 
civics123
Posts: 5

whs,
Where exactly did you see in the reviews that venting was a problem? From what I read, this case is great.

Let me know,
Justin

Posted 2 months ago #
 
Budohorseman
Budohorseman
Posts: 687

Check this one out at Tom's Hardware for a sub $1000 pc and this one for an overview of 1000-5000 pc's, and I'm sure you will be able to get an excellent system when you mix and match.

Posted 2 months ago #
 
ScottW
ScottW
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Civics, I like that case! A 250 mm and a 360 mm fan should be able to move a lot of air and quietly, too. However, I'm not sure that the Zalman CNPS9700 LED cooler is a good match. I recently did a build with this cooler and was not really happy with it. First of all, it's a MASSIVE cooler with fins standing up quite high off of the motherboard. There was almost no spare headroom in an Antec P182 case with no side intake fan. In your build, you might find that the 360 mm side fan is too close, or even touching, the Zalman. Also, that big heatsink from the Zalman sticking up the way it does is blocking the case airflow. With the 3 graphics cards that you are considering, most of your heat will be coming from them and exhausting air from the case is your top priority. Since there has been no talk of overclocking, I would suggest that you would be fine with the standard Core2 boxed fan. Intel is providing a much better fansink in the box than they used to. The lower profile fan will allow those ginormous case fans to do their work.

Take the money from that fan and shore up something else. Like whs, I think that you should get a bigger HD even in a sub-$1000 PC. If you have to buy more HDs later, that means more power drain, more heat and more noise.

Posted 2 months ago #
 
civics123
Posts: 5

ScottW,

I appreciate your response. I was aware that the Zalman was a little big, but not as big as you described. I might have to consider another CPU fan. I do know that I will definitely be overclocking the CPU to its' limits so I will need a good fan however. I heard Zalman was the best for CPU fan's and that is why I chose the 9700. Is there another that you are aware of that does what is needed for severe overclocking? Also, maybe I can just take off the side fan of the case if it does touch the Zalman. I mostly bought the case because of the fan in the front.

Thanks,
Justin

Posted 2 months ago #
 
ScottW
ScottW
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Justin: when you start overclocking, everything changes. As for the Zalman cooler, I got the idea to use it from Tom's Hardware Group (THG) and their new 2008 Reference System. After seeing how much room it took up in the case, I realized that it's a good cooler for THG because they are running their systems on a bench, not in a case. After seeing it in a case, I believe that the downside of blocking case airflow outweighs the benefit of it's CPU cooling ability. I wish I could tell you that I have first hand experience with some other low-profile cooler that is about as good, but I can't. If you do get a recommendation for another cooler, I'd be interested to hear it. Opinions vary greatly about cooling. For me, I would rather have a 360 mm case intake fan than a 110 mm CPU fan.

I was a little surprised to hear you say that you would overclock this setup to the max. I don't see XFX touting that motherboard as an overclocker's board and I don't see EPP profiles on those A-data DIMMs. Given the overclocking capabilities of the Wolfdale as demonstrated by THG, I think the CPU will be the last thing to give out. Long before that, I would expect the NB/SB to fail as the FSB is raised and/or the memory will fail (at a 1:1 ratio).

Posted 2 months ago #
 
whs
whs
Posts: 6322

civics, the comment on the fan problem I saw right on the newegg page that you had posted with your configuration. I have snipped it so that you can recognize it:

PS: Sorry for the late answer, but I am 6 timezones away from you. A man has to sleep. lol

Posted 2 months ago #
 
civics123
Posts: 5

ScottW:

As for the motherboard not being acclaimed as an overclocker's board, I have read many articles describing that it is indeed great for overclocking. That is one of the reasons I got the board. As for the memory, well I mostly am considering it because it is cheap and I don't have the money for good ram yet. When I said I will be overclocking this box, I meant in the future. As for the side fan being too close to the zalman, I have done some more research with pictures etc. and I believe it will not be a problem. I have seen many reviews saying the case was enormous. I realize the cpu fan is the size of a softball, but I don't think it will be so big that I will have to take the side fan off. We will see...

Whs:
Thanks for posting that comment. I missed that review. So it seems the case fans do not have a lot of rpm.... Good thing I am getting the zalman, which has been touted to reduce temps on the motherboard, the memory and the whole case because of the way it is made.

Thanks guys,
Justin

Posted 2 months ago #
 
ScottW
ScottW
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Justin, it seems that you have done your homework. I know that there are many motherboards that are popular with overclockers even though the manufacturer does not claim they are capable OC boards. There was much to like about the Asus P5E3 Deluxe motherboard that was used on that same build I am referring to. It had a plethora of settings to tweak -- clocks, voltages, ratios, timings, etc. The NB voltage, with very small steps, was not something that I would have known would be useful but it was. I also like the OC Profile feature from Asus that lets you save all the settings for each step up. That makes it real easy to switch back and forth between different OC settings.

If you are not too busy with your new toy, I'd be interested to hear how your build went when it's done.

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