http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ How-To Geek Forums Topic: OS X -- Darwin, X11, Quartz, etc. en Fri, 05 Sep 2008 20:06:39 +0000 http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/os-x-darwin-x11-quartz-etc#post-24769 Sat, 17 May 2008 10:49:26 +0000 ross 24769@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>You could download and install Darwin, then run X11 in it, then run Gnome or KDE and use an OS X "theme". That's about as close to free OS X as you're going to get. Quartz, Aqua, all that crap - is Apple proprietary - they're not giving that source out any time soon. </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/os-x-darwin-x11-quartz-etc#post-24748 Sat, 17 May 2008 08:20:20 +0000 jmcguire 24748@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>Thank you for the help.</p> <p>So is there any way to download (or download and compile if you are brave) the files and add Carbon, Cocoa, Quartz Compositor and Aqua? (or very close alternatives)</p> <p>Essentially getting OSX for free? </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/os-x-darwin-x11-quartz-etc#post-24254 Wed, 14 May 2008 02:15:20 +0000 ross 24254@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>The wikipedia info on Darwin is actually pretty good at explaining what it is - <a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwin_'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwin_</a>(operating_system)</p> <p>In a nutshell, Darwin is the core of OS X. It's a Unix operating system. The rest of OS X - the fancy graphics (Carbon, Cocoa, Quartz Compositor and Aqua user interface etc) are NOT a part of Darwin. </p> <p>X11 comes installed w/ 10.5 by default now - so if you're running Leopard, you have it installed already. Using X11 you can run apps like The Gimp. </p> <p>You can run a lot of X11 apps, though not all, in OS X using X11. Google Fink and/or Fink Commander. Between those apps and X11 you can run quite a few linux/unix apps in OS X. </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/os-x-darwin-x11-quartz-etc#post-24136 Tue, 13 May 2008 01:30:27 +0000 jmcguire 24136@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>I just learned about Darwin today, but the documentation I am finding, is honestly a little over my head.</p> <p>I understand that Darwin is the project for essentially, the underbelly of Mac OS X (with no GUI).</p> <p><a href='http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource/'>http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource/</a></p> <p>From the above website, I see that Mac OS X 10.4 has the binary available.</p> <p>What EXACTLY is missing from Darwin as compared to OS X.</p> <p>They recommend installing the X11 X Windows Manager. How does this compare to OS X? There is mention of Quartz, how does this compare?</p> <p>I would consider myself very knowledgeable in Windows, somewhat knowledgeable in Linux, but completely oblivious when it comes to UNIX, and even more so with OS X.</p> <p>So, from what I have gathered, I can run X11 apps (on a PC) if I install Darwin and X11 Desktop Manager. Will I be able to run Mac programs? What will be the difference in Mac OS X and Darwin with X11.</p> <p>Is it possible to essentially build OS X using Darwin, X11 (or another), and other packages?</p> <p>And finally, any information or explanations people have on the Darwin Project.</p> <p>Thank you very much </p>