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How-To Geek Forums Topic: CreataCard 3 http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ How-To Geek Forums Topic: CreataCard 3 en Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:04:38 +0000 bcope01 on "CreataCard 3" http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/creatacard-3/page/4#post-116710 Sat, 31 Oct 2009 00:52:35 +0000 bcope01 116710@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ Just upgraded (???) my OS to Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit. Tried to install CAC Gold 3 from original disk and it failed. Error message stating that 16-bit programs not supported. bcope01 on "CreataCard 3" http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/creatacard-3/page/4#post-99460 Wed, 15 Jul 2009 04:24:10 +0000 bcope01 99460@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ JH, I wouldn't know about Vista 32-bit, as I'm running Vista 64-bit on my PC. I've tried everything imaginable and still can't get the 32-bit CAC 3 program to install from the CD due to its 16-bit InstallShield installation program. I'm hoping that upgrading to Windows 7 64-bit, I will be able to run 16-bit programs, unlike Vista 64-bit. I haven't a clue if Windows 7 will be backward compatible with 16-bit software, and have no idea who to ask. JH on "CreataCard 3" http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/creatacard-3/page/4#post-99358 Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:59:17 +0000 JH 99358@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ bcope: There should be no trouble with 16 bit on 32 bit Vista, or hopefully 32 bit 7 for that matter. Kirputer, assuming you have read the rest of the thread, Have you tried a) running the setup program as administrator and possibly b) running it from a command prompt elevated as administrator? The procedure for the latter would be to run cmd.exe as administrator and typing [CD drive letter]:\setup.exe and pressing Enter. I have loaded 16 bit programs onto Vista and the solution seems to differ for each one. Procedure seems to be getting each executable to be run as administrator, possibly with compatability mode set to a 9x system and a variety of the other features selected. One program seemed to have problems installing until I clicked 'Run' instead of 'Install' at the splash screen, which brought up the installer. Another option, especially if the application was originally designed to work on DOS as well/instead of Windows, is to run the installer within a command prompt elevated as administrator. Often virtualization is slow, and it is often easier to buy an old computer for about £20. The Vista Compatability 'Wizard' is basically useless, you can get the same functionality with the compatability tab for that program's properties. bcope01 on "CreataCard 3" http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/creatacard-3/page/4#post-99286 Tue, 14 Jul 2009 01:44:47 +0000 bcope01 99286@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ Think we'll be able to install the CreataCard Gold 3 program from CD if we update to Windows 7? Or will we still not be able to due to the 16-bit InstallShield installation program used by the CD? kirputer on "CreataCard 3" http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/creatacard-3/page/4#post-67918 Tue, 20 Jan 2009 02:49:53 +0000 kirputer 67918@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ Hello, This thread is about problems with 64 bit Vista and CreataCard 3. I have the 32 bit version of Vista. I am also having problems installing CreataCard Gold 3 on to it. I have the CreataCard Gold 3 application CDROM. When I click on setup.exe, a box pops up saying installsheild. It will run for several minutes and then says "not responding". I tried using Vista's compatability wizard, but that did not seem to make any difference. Some of you have indicated that you have loaded CreataCard on to 32 bit systems. Can you let me know how you did that? thank you. bcope01 on "CreataCard 3" http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/creatacard-3/page/4#post-57844 Wed, 19 Nov 2008 03:24:01 +0000 bcope01 57844@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ Back to the InstallShield Premier Repackager then. Hope my old computer boots up. It is pretty sad. I may do a System Recovery to restore the computer to its factory-shipped condition. That way I will have a fairly clean system on which to run the Repackager. Justin on "CreataCard 3" http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/creatacard-3/page/4#post-57835 Wed, 19 Nov 2008 02:28:47 +0000 Justin 57835@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ Programs that from a flash drive should be contained to one folder. Sense Creatacard wouldn't run when the program folder and even other DLL files were copied over that means there is some other file or registry key that needs to be on the system drive. Whatever that is, it would need to be installed on each system for it to run from a flash drive thus defeating the purpose. bcope01 on "CreataCard 3" http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/creatacard-3/page/4#post-57827 Wed, 19 Nov 2008 01:30:40 +0000 bcope01 57827@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ I'll give that a try (InstallShield Premier Repackager) when I get some time in the next few days. Don't know if it is possible, but is there some way I could install Creatacard on a flash drive from my old computer running XP? That way, I could run it on any PC I'm using, including my Vista 64-bit computer by inserting the flash drive in a USB port. Justin on "CreataCard 3" http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/creatacard-3/page/4#post-57568 Mon, 17 Nov 2008 19:27:10 +0000 Justin 57568@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ Reading your post listing "repackage it" gave me an idea. I only listed AppDeploy Repackager as it was a small free repackager. There are other repackaging programs out there you can try. Like InstallShield Premier includes a repackager though the program costs money. It does appear from their site you can download a free 21 day trial of it. You can get it from <a href="http://www.acresso.com/downloads/downloads_5850.htm?link_id=relatedLinks" rel="nofollow">http://www.acresso.com/downloads/downloads_5850.htm?link_id=relatedLinks</a> You do need to register for the trial and the download is about 150MB. If that is a problem, I can look for other repackager programs. bcope01 on "CreataCard 3" http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/creatacard-3/page/4#post-57319 Sat, 15 Nov 2008 15:50:50 +0000 bcope01 57319@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ Thanks for your time and efforts jd2066. You went above and beyond. Not sure how I will proceed. I'm no computer whiz. Wish there was someplace I could just send/take the original installation disk to and have them repackage it into a working MSI for Vista 64-bit. Justin on "CreataCard 3" http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/creatacard-3/page/4#post-57273 Sat, 15 Nov 2008 06:20:03 +0000 Justin 57273@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ I looked at the API Monitor capture file and couldn't figure out the problem with it. I'm now out of ideas for getting Creatacard to work on Windows Vista 64-bit. One thing you might be able to do however is use Virtualzation software like <a href="http://www.virtualbox.org/">VirtualBox</a> (The 64-bit version is labled AMD64) to run Windows XP in a Virtual Machine running on Windows Vista 64-bit. This is not the prefered way to run older programs as it takes more processer power and memory and doesn't integrate as well into the host OS (Windows Vista 64-bit in this case) but it's the only idea I have at the moment. bcope01 on "CreataCard 3" http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/creatacard-3/page/4#post-57220 Fri, 14 Nov 2008 22:36:40 +0000 bcope01 57220@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ API Monitor capture file sent via email. Justin on "CreataCard 3" http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/creatacard-3/page/4#post-57201 Fri, 14 Nov 2008 20:16:18 +0000 Justin 57201@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ Here is how to get the log from API Monitor: Run API Monitor. Open the Capture menu and select Process Filter. Click "Include Filter (Monitor Processes Specified Below)". In thed Process Box type CACard32 (API Monitor doesn't include .exe as part of the name). Click Add and click Ok. Open the Capture menu and select API Filter. Check select all under Win32 API and NT Native API. Uncheck Memory Management under Win32 API and Uncheck Memory under NT Native API. Click OK. Open the Capture menu and select Capture API Events. Start Creatacard. Note: With the APIs being monitored Creatacard may be slower to open. When you click ok on the Creatacard error open the Capture menu can click Capture API Events to stop the capture. Open the File menu and click Save. Save the apm file somewhere and send it via email. bcope01 on "CreataCard 3" http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/creatacard-3/page/3#post-57136 Fri, 14 Nov 2008 15:22:54 +0000 bcope01 57136@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ Standing by. Justin on "CreataCard 3" http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/creatacard-3/page/3#post-57102 Fri, 14 Nov 2008 07:15:37 +0000 Justin 57102@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ I looked at the DLL files you sent and I think I was wrong on them being the problem. I looked at the PML again and I can't find a problem in the logs at the moment. You can try making a log with <a href="http://www.rohitab.com/apimonitor/index.html">API Monitor</a> and I'll see if I can find the problem with it's log. Though I'm not much of an expert on APIs so it may not help. Also at the moment I don't have time to write how to use it so I'll have to do that tomarrow. bcope01 on "CreataCard 3" http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/creatacard-3/page/3#post-57051 Thu, 13 Nov 2008 21:25:05 +0000 bcope01 57051@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ I moved the DLL files out of the C:\Program Files (x86)\CreataCard\Gold folder as suggested. When I launched the CreataCard executable, I got the following window for each DLL file in succession until it was replaced: "CACard32.exe - Unable to Locate Component" "This application has failed to start because xxx.dll (each of the DLLS removed) was not found. Re-installing the application may fix this problem." When I put the DLLs back into the C:\Program Files (x86)\CreataCard\Gold folder and launched the CreataCard program, I got the original error "CreataCard." Within this window is "Error during program initialization. Please reinstall CreataCard." Copy of these DLLs on the way to you via email. Justin on "CreataCard 3" http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/creatacard-3/page/3#post-56979 Thu, 13 Nov 2008 07:58:35 +0000 Justin 56979@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ I got the PML file and looked at what it showed. My guess is that the following DLL files are failing: C:\Program Files (x86)\CreataCard\Gold\jgpl400.dll C:\Program Files (x86)\CreataCard\Gold\JGDW400.DLL C:\Program Files (x86)\CreataCard\Gold\JGSD400.DLL C:\Program Files (x86)\CreataCard\Gold\jgaw400.dll C:\Program Files (x86)\CreataCard\Gold\jgsh400.dll C:\Program Files (x86)\CreataCard\Gold\jgpl400.dll C:\Program Files (x86)\CreataCard\Gold\jgmd400.dll Try moving these DLL files to another folder and seeing if Creatacard will run without them. If it won't run without them send me a copy of DLL files and I will check them out. bcope01 on "CreataCard 3" http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/creatacard-3/page/3#post-56940 Thu, 13 Nov 2008 04:26:36 +0000 bcope01 56940@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ Saved PML on the way via email. Please take a look at it to see if you can figure out why the CreataCard launch is failing. Thanks! Justin on "CreataCard 3" http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/creatacard-3/page/3#post-56902 Thu, 13 Nov 2008 01:22:30 +0000 Justin 56902@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ Try using <a href="http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896645.aspx">Process Monitor</a> to see what file and registry accesses the program is doing before that error message. Here is how to use it.: Run Process Monitor. Click the capature icon (looks like a magnifine glass) on the left of the toolbar to turn off the capture so you can set a filter. Click Fliter and click Filter. Select process name, type in the name of the creatacard exe file, click the Add button. Click Ok. Click the Clear button to the left of the toolbar to clear the unfiltered events it has collected. Click the capture button again to start a new capture. Run creatacard, and when the error appears click ok. In Process Explorer click capture to stop the capture. Now you can either look though the list for an failures and try to fix it or save the list to a PML file, email it and I'll look at it and try to come up with something to fix the problem if I can. How to save the list to a PML file: Click File and Save. Click the ... by the path and select where you want the file. Click OK. bcope01 on "CreataCard 3" http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/creatacard-3/page/3#post-56886 Thu, 13 Nov 2008 00:02:26 +0000 bcope01 56886@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ Already done that and had no effect. Get same error message.