http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ How-To Geek Forums Topic: (Solved) - Backing up data... beginner's advice needed! en Thu, 08 Jan 2009 20:11:14 +0000 http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/backing-up-data-beginners-advice-needed/page/3#post-36604 Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:05:27 +0000 Lighthouse 36604@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>Hey RobbieBoy. I thought I was the only person in the world, that used the phrase "ta, or thanks, or thank you "muchly"" </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/backing-up-data-beginners-advice-needed/page/3#post-36598 Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:46:16 +0000 RobbieBoy65 36598@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>Thank you muchly. </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/backing-up-data-beginners-advice-needed/page/3#post-36569 Tue, 22 Jul 2008 10:11:37 +0000 whs 36569@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>RobbieBoy65, We are all glad you are in good shape. If you need any further Ghosty assistance, let us know. </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/backing-up-data-beginners-advice-needed/page/3#post-36529 Tue, 22 Jul 2008 00:10:48 +0000 RobbieBoy65 36529@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>I just got my repy back from Symantec. They told me if I want a copy of the recovery disc I have to buy Ghost 14.0 again!!</p> <p>Further to above post, I have finally managed to achieve a positive outcome! I hunted around on the Symantec site map until finally I found a free-call number for here in Australia. Phoned it and actually got to speak to a real human being who was very helpful. To cut a long story short, I had not been able to burn the image to disc because the file had not downloaded properly. Once I got the file downloaded properly it was very straightforward to burn the .ISO file to disc (I used CDBurnerXP as recommended by k9-worked beautifully and the Symantec guy was most impressed with it too!). So now I have a valid recovery disc for Ghost!</p> <p>Thanks everybody for help on this- ScottW, whs, k9 and anyone else whose name temporarily escapes me. Thanks to your help I now have the recovery disc as well as a number of excellent resources such as tutes on backing-up, recovery disc etc for my future use. Bless you all. </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/backing-up-data-beginners-advice-needed/page/3#post-36383 Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:12:12 +0000 whs 36383@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>With Ghost you use an external disk. Something like this <a href='http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Western-Digital-500GB-My-Book-Essential-Edition-2-0-External-Hard-Drive-WDH1U5000N/sem/rpsm/oid/193193/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do'>http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Western-Digital-500GB-My-Book-Essential-Edition-2-0-External-Hard-Drive-WDH1U5000N/sem/rpsm/oid/193193/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do</a> </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/backing-up-data-beginners-advice-needed/page/3#post-36375 Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:55:28 +0000 RobbieBoy65 36375@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>Thanks whs, these look good too. BTW could you please refresh my memory: DVD-R or CD-R for back-up(s)? Thanks. </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/backing-up-data-beginners-advice-needed/page/3#post-36367 Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:43:37 +0000 whs 36367@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>I have put 3 more little tutorials that I found in my files into PhotoBucket. Those you can snip if you find them useful. If that does not work well, let me know and I make PDF versions of it.</p> <p><a href='http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii36/whs37/Ghost/FirstGhostBackup.png'>http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii36/whs37/Ghost/FirstGhostBackup.png</a><br /> <a href='http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii36/whs37/Ghost/Ghostrecoverypoints.png'>http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii36/whs37/Ghost/Ghostrecoverypoints.png</a><br /> <a href='http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii36/whs37/Ghost/Ghostschedulechange.png'>http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii36/whs37/Ghost/Ghostschedulechange.png</a> </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/backing-up-data-beginners-advice-needed/page/3#post-36303 Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:07:31 +0000 RobbieBoy65 36303@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>BTW whs, thank you for the tutorials you kindly provided a link for. They look excellent, so I have downloaded them and I think I might even keep a hard copy of the 'recovery' one with my recovery disc (if I ever manage to create/receive it!) Appreciate it. </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/backing-up-data-beginners-advice-needed/page/3#post-36274 Mon, 21 Jul 2008 09:50:37 +0000 whs 36274@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>Don't give up. You MUST have the Ghost disk. Else you cannot recover. I would try the Norton procedure anyhow. I tried it loading from my disk. But in your case, they talk about downloading the ISO file from their site. That, I have not tried and that may very well work. If you are successful, let me know. Then I go that route too.<br /> Btw. I never download paid programs. Always get the disk. That, I found, is the safer way. I only download the freebees. </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/backing-up-data-beginners-advice-needed/page/3#post-36273 Mon, 21 Jul 2008 09:41:23 +0000 RobbieBoy65 36273@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>Thanks whs but if you couldn't do it I doubt very much I could. If I had known the stress and hassle buying the product online was going to cause, I would have driven to the computer store and bought the darned thing! I have spent in good faith $118.97 U.S Dollars with Symantec (bought the Anti-Virus too) and I just hope they do the decent thing and send me a hard copy of the recovery disc (I emailed them a short time ago). Thanks everyone. </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/backing-up-data-beginners-advice-needed/page/3#post-36270 Mon, 21 Jul 2008 09:14:41 +0000 whs 36270@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>In case you had not seen this, here is the official Norton procedure for burning a Ghost ISO. Unfortunately I have not been able to make it work, but maybe you have more luck. <a href='http://service1.symantec.com/support/powerquest.nsf/docid/2008011023144262'>http://service1.symantec.com/support/powerquest.nsf/docid/2008011023144262</a> </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/backing-up-data-beginners-advice-needed/page/2#post-36266 Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:41:49 +0000 RobbieBoy65 36266@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>K9, I went to use the CDBurnerXP software but when it asked me to select the ISO image I wanted to burn and I tried to choose the file (from desktop where I was advised by Norton to save it), I got a message saying it was "not a valid ISO image". What should I do now? Thanks for help! </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/backing-up-data-beginners-advice-needed/page/2#post-36208 Sun, 20 Jul 2008 22:26:01 +0000 RobbieBoy65 36208@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>Thanks guys. ScottW, I did what you suggested and in control panel I am logged in as administrator. k9, thanks for the link- have downloaded it and I will keep it up my sleeve and use it if I have no luck with Nero. </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/backing-up-data-beginners-advice-needed/page/2#post-36121 Sun, 20 Jul 2008 17:36:41 +0000 k9 36121@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>It seems you have encountered a few hiccups when trying to use Nero. Try CDBurnerXP instead, its free, small (2.83 MiB) and simple (no complex mumbo jumbo involved). Here is the link - <a href='http://cdburnerxp.se/downloadsetup.exe'>http://cdburnerxp.se/downloadsetup.exe</a></p> <p>Use this to burn the ISO and then use Ghost to create an image. </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/backing-up-data-beginners-advice-needed/page/2#post-36083 Sun, 20 Jul 2008 15:15:15 +0000 ScottW 36083@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>RobbieBoy, this message is certainly relevant. If you have an administrator account, you should not get this message. Nero BurnRights is used to give non-administrators the ability to burn CDs and DVDs without needing an administrator.</p> <p>Go to Control Panel -&gt; User Accounts and you should see the account that you are logged in to. Underneath the user name it should say "Administrator" or "Standard User". If you have a standard user account, then use Nero BurnRights to get permission to burn CDs and DVDs. If you have an Administrator account, then you should already have burn rights, and there may be something else going on. </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/backing-up-data-beginners-advice-needed/page/2#post-36071 Sun, 20 Jul 2008 13:42:51 +0000 RobbieBoy65 36071@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>ScottW, I could not see the little arrow that you referred to. I don't know if this is relevant, but when I try to open Nero Express from my desktop, I get a message that says:</p> <p>"Please ask your system administrator to give you permission to write CD/DVD's. This can be done using the control panel application Nero BurnRights. The tool is already installed on this PC"</p> <p>(I did not think the above message was relevant earlier because when you click the little 'ok' button underneath this message, it seems to take you to the next step ok). But could this be causing my difficulties when I try to double-click the file icon? Thanks. </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/backing-up-data-beginners-advice-needed/page/2#post-35802 Sat, 19 Jul 2008 10:07:24 +0000 whs 35802@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>techgranny, you are absolutely right. Many people seem to forget the simple principles of backing up and get involved into complex scenarios that will fail at the end. They also only think about backing up the data and not the OS. I think there are 3 essential points to be observed:<br /> 1. The backup should be for the data (system and user), operating system and all the programs on the OS disk.<br /> 2. The backups should be to an external device (disk, USB stick, SSD). Ideally you disconnect this device after backup so that the "bad guys" cannot get at it. When your OS disk crashes (e.g. head crash), restore points or data saved on the internal disk will be no good for anything. A second internal disk is an option and is , of course, the fastest. But that does not have the isolation of a disconnected external device.<br /> 3. You must be able to start the recovery program from a CD/DVD. Once the operating system does not function any more, you need to boot something to get going - unless you want to reinstall the OS with all the headaches that this produces.<br /> Programs like Ghost and others do that. I think the small investment for those is well worth it. But, if anybody has a simpler and better scenario, I am willing to listen. </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/backing-up-data-beginners-advice-needed/page/2#post-35762 Sat, 19 Jul 2008 04:54:25 +0000 elpaelpa 35762@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>ScottW-oops!Sometimes the analytical part of my mind does not function well:) </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/backing-up-data-beginners-advice-needed/page/2#post-35753 Sat, 19 Jul 2008 04:08:40 +0000 techgranny 35753@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>Wheh! Boy am I glad I use an external hard drive. Maxtor One Touch III, so easy a granny can do it! (I don't mean to advertise and I don't work for them) but reading all this complicated babble about something so simple has given me a headache:) I think I'll back-up now and relax:D </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/backing-up-data-beginners-advice-needed/page/2#post-35751 Sat, 19 Jul 2008 03:59:36 +0000 ScottW 35751@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>@elpaelpa, I'm glad this topic is helping you, but please start a new one so we can answer your questions separate from RobbieBoy's. </p>