http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ How-To Geek Forums Topic: Windows Vista User Account Control (UAC) - Why it's useful en Sat, 30 Aug 2008 13:31:41 +0000 http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/uac-is-good-why-and-mini-faq-thing/page/2#post-40928 Fri, 08 Aug 2008 21:35:09 +0000 whs 40928@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>This is an article in this context: <a href='http://itsvista.com/2006/12/learn-how-to-disable-vistas-uac-and-why-you-shouldnt/'>http://itsvista.com/2006/12/learn-how-to-disable-vistas-uac-and-why-you-shouldnt/</a> </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/uac-is-good-why-and-mini-faq-thing#post-26575 Thu, 29 May 2008 13:00:48 +0000 tmonkey2394 26575@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>I had to disable my UAC because one of my programs Trend Micro Antivirus 2008 because of Vista they are having problems with the UAC it wont scan my computer it says restart my computer I do and it wont work still so I contacted them and they said need to turn off the UAC. I really didnt want to but I did but I can tell you it doesnt like Vista because it wont scan. But I am just waiting untill they have a update on where I can turn it back on I dont like having it off but I just have to deal with it. </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/uac-is-good-why-and-mini-faq-thing#post-17876 Sat, 12 Apr 2008 21:30:19 +0000 jd2066 17876@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>@GaardCeteru: True but there is one flaw with the UAC prompt and that idea. Like listed on <a href='http://www.tweak-uac.com/'>Tweak UI</a> the UAC prompt only appears once to give a program Administrator privilages and after that the program can do whatever it wants.<br /> On the alert feature the reason there isn't an alert is the many ways to integrate into Windows. All the ways have good uses and alerts for each of them would be annoying.<br /> Many of the features viruses and spyware use were originally designed for good things and built to trust the program using that as no one thought about the bad uses.<br /> Like for instance any program can integrate with the system Favorites folder to let the user manage them from another program. No one thought at the time the feature would be abused by so many programs to add their own links to favorites without the user's permission.<br /> It's the same with Junk email, the email system was designed to be open and flexible. No one originally thought that trusting system would be abused to send junk. </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/uac-is-good-why-and-mini-faq-thing#post-17869 Sat, 12 Apr 2008 21:12:05 +0000 GaardCeteru 17869@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>Any time I get annoyed by UAC I remember the time I had a virus in my old XP computer and thought "why isn't there a feature to alert you if something may be wrong?!!"</p> <p>Thus even though it bothers me I dont disable it u.u </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/uac-is-good-why-and-mini-faq-thing#post-17783 Sat, 12 Apr 2008 16:47:46 +0000 whs 17783@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>Interesting article regarding the subject. <a href='http://news.zdnet.com/2424-3515_22-197089.html'>http://news.zdnet.com/2424-3515_22-197089.html</a> </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/uac-is-good-why-and-mini-faq-thing#post-13655 Wed, 19 Mar 2008 18:50:58 +0000 jd2066 13655@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>If by "write it" you mean write and design UAC then no. I don't know enough about programming to write an Operating System feature like UAC nor do I work at Microsoft.<br /> If by "why are you so hot" you mean why I mention it when someone wants to disable it for something like annoying prompts then I do so because from what I've read and understand about UAC it is a good security feature and you shouldn't turn off good security features because of a little annoyance. </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/uac-is-good-why-and-mini-faq-thing#post-13632 Wed, 19 Mar 2008 17:48:24 +0000 Lighthouse 13632@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>jd2066 why are you so hot on UAC. Did you write it? </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/uac-is-good-why-and-mini-faq-thing#post-12732 Tue, 11 Mar 2008 18:07:36 +0000 jd2066 12732@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>@del: I would recommend starting a new topic. You won't get many replies posting in this one. </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/uac-is-good-why-and-mini-faq-thing#post-12719 Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:41:00 +0000 del 12719@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>i can't use my microphone in yahoo </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/uac-is-good-why-and-mini-faq-thing#post-9318 Mon, 04 Feb 2008 23:26:11 +0000 jd2066 9318@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>Thanks.<br /> Unfortunately with warnings like UAC shows, there is still the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dancing_pigs">Dancing Pigs problem</a>.<br /> No matter what warnings you display if someone really wants to see Dancing Pigs they will just click though any warnings displayed. </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/uac-is-good-why-and-mini-faq-thing#post-9249 Mon, 04 Feb 2008 08:21:41 +0000 Starlionblue 9249@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>Great post.</p> <p>I must say that even a "power user" (and I use the term loosely), UAC is not really annoying. In the first few weeks, I got prompts all the time, but now I will go days without any. UAC won't bug you during "normal use". It only pops up for configuration changes mostly.</p> <p>It must be remembered that MS put UAC in place because so many people were screwing up their installations. Most of those people were then helped by us geeks. Wouldn't you rather your parents/siblings/friends didn't ask you for help quite so often? ;) At least now UAC gives them a warning.</p> <p>I dare any "power user" to say he or she has never done anything stupid while fiddling with Windows. Ever deleted a system file by mistake? Ever made your machine unbootable? Ever uninstalled the wrong device? Ever installed the wrong driver? If you answered yes to even one of those, UAC is a neat extra safety feature. I for one won't be turning it off.</p> <p>Of course, if anyone not a "power user" is using the machine, UAC is a very good idea. </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/uac-is-good-why-and-mini-faq-thing#post-8813 Tue, 29 Jan 2008 23:04:22 +0000 jd2066 8813@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>@The Geek: Yep, I can edit it now. Thanks for changing that.<br /> @Smashpmk712: You're Welcome. </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/uac-is-good-why-and-mini-faq-thing#post-8809 Tue, 29 Jan 2008 21:06:44 +0000 Smashpmk712 8809@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>@jd2066, Thank you for posting this. I personally think that no one should disable the UAC ... if you do you might as well use XP.</p> <p>@ the geek, What is the new edit window? </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/uac-is-good-why-and-mini-faq-thing#post-8806 Tue, 29 Jan 2008 20:38:54 +0000 The Geek 8806@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>@jd2066</p> <p>I changed the edit interval... finally found it. Let me know if that makes it editable for you. </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/uac-is-good-why-and-mini-faq-thing#post-8702 Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:11:41 +0000 jd2066 8702@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>@whs: I subscribed. It is just emails when a new article comes out plus a list of related ones. Still useful but not something I would call a "Daily Newsletter". I guess The Geek thinks differently as it's called that.</p> <p>@The Geek: Is there a way the first post in this topic can be made editable for me again? </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/uac-is-good-why-and-mini-faq-thing#post-8653 Mon, 28 Jan 2008 04:09:05 +0000 whs 8653@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>jd, Yes, that's it. Just click and you'll see. </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/uac-is-good-why-and-mini-faq-thing#post-8632 Mon, 28 Jan 2008 01:41:10 +0000 jd2066 8632@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>@whs: Do you mean the "Email Subscription" link on the HTG home page? If so I thought that was just to email you when a new article appeared and not a newsletter. If not then I've missed something.</p> <p>@mod with sticky powers: Thanks for making the topic sticky. </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/uac-is-good-why-and-mini-faq-thing#post-8615 Mon, 28 Jan 2008 00:37:28 +0000 whs 8615@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>Of course there is a HTG daily newsletter. At least I get one every day - you should subscribe.<br /> For the rest I understand. There is no particular urgency. You can leasurely work it out. </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/uac-is-good-why-and-mini-faq-thing#post-8606 Mon, 28 Jan 2008 00:10:15 +0000 jd2066 8606@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>Thanks. I think a sticky topic or article would be better as there isn't an HTG daily newsletter.<br /> First though I probably need some better examples, a more helpful number 5 as I know people don't just randomly download stuff as there is usually a good reason for it and maybe some reference links to other articles online.<br /> This is just a first draft post to try and explain that UAC isn't totally useless as a lot of people seem to think so and want to disable it. </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/uac-is-good-why-and-mini-faq-thing#post-8604 Sun, 27 Jan 2008 23:59:18 +0000 whs 8604@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>Very good jd. I suggest the Geek make a daily newsletter of that. Maybe you can put it into the format that he likes. This is useful as a reference. On your point 5. I like to add that at least Spybot can keep an eye on your registry. That is helpful. </p>