http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ How-To Geek Forums Topic: Can´t connect to router after hibernation!! en Mon, 23 Nov 2009 09:19:55 +0000 http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/can%c2%b4t-connect-to-router-after-hibernation#post-100010 Fri, 17 Jul 2009 23:47:37 +0000 ScottW 100010@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>@Matt, are you referring to <a href="http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/cannot-connect-to-my-router-via-lan-wlan-connects-without-a-problem">this old thread</a> from 7 months ago? It seems like it was solved. Is this a new problem or the same one?</p> <p>@LH, thanks for the compliment. You've been on fire today answering posts, so I had extra time to write all about power states. :-) </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/can%c2%b4t-connect-to-router-after-hibernation#post-99995 Fri, 17 Jul 2009 22:02:23 +0000 LH 99995@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>ScottW. Excellent post. Thankyou :) </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/can%c2%b4t-connect-to-router-after-hibernation#post-99993 Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:52:11 +0000 ScottW 99993@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>The power states used in ACPI are nicely summarized in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ACPI#Power_States">this Wikipedia article</a>. In common usage, sleep is ambiguous and should be avoided when possible. To be most specific, use the ACPI state designations, as many modern BIOS menus do.</p> <p>S3 is now usually called "sleep", and used to be called "standby". S4 is "hibernation", though in Windows you can choose to put the system in S4 hibernation by pushing the "sleep" button. Also adding to the confusion is Windows "hybrid sleep" which puts the system in S3 sleep, but writes the S4 hibernation data to disk in case of a power failure. Microsoft <a href="http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/help/335c6a5d-0304-4af1-b135-6bf6c124dc111033.mspx#E5HAC">explains the differences here</a>.</p> <p>The power management setting, "Allow the computer to turn off this device...", is not part of S3 sleep or S4 hibernation. This is, I believe, only a device power state, what the ACPI spec calls D0 through D3. This is used to remove or reduce power from one device while the entire system remains running (G0 state).</p> <p>In S3 sleep, all devices except the RAM and what is needed to keep the RAM refreshed, should be powered off. In S4 hibernation, all devices must be powered off since the system is put into a G3 standby-power mode. </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/can%c2%b4t-connect-to-router-after-hibernation#post-99992 Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:50:02 +0000 raphoenix 99992@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>@madacs,<br /> ---<br /> Vista supports three Different ACPI Rest Modes to include Standby, Hybrid Sleep and Sleep.<br /> <a href="http://www.mydigitallife.info/2007/10/12/what-is-the-differences-between-sleep-standby-and-hibernate-in-vista/" rel="nofollow">http://www.mydigitallife.info/2007/10/12/what-is-the-differences-between-sleep-standby-and-hibernate-in-vista/</a><br /> <a href="http://www.mydigitallife.info/2007/10/29/what-is-hybrid-sleep-and-differences-with-basic-sleep-mode-in-vista/" rel="nofollow">http://www.mydigitallife.info/2007/10/29/what-is-hybrid-sleep-and-differences-with-basic-sleep-mode-in-vista/</a><br /> ---<br /> Regards,<br /> Rick P. </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/can%c2%b4t-connect-to-router-after-hibernation#post-99983 Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:01:43 +0000 madmacs 99983@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>Maybe I´m getting things confused, sleep, standby or hibernate, I thought they were all the same!! I power down the PC and can wake it up by either moving my mouse or pressing a key is what I meant </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/can%c2%b4t-connect-to-router-after-hibernation#post-99977 Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:43:29 +0000 LH 99977@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>Matt. I'm just a bit confused, because the Topic title says Hibernate, but your 1st post says Sleep. </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/can%c2%b4t-connect-to-router-after-hibernation#post-99973 Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:35:29 +0000 madmacs 99973@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>LH, yeah it only happens after using hibernate!! Then I can do a restart and my connection is lost. I´ve also tried to a "hard" reset with various routers that I´ve had and that doesn´t help either!!<br /> Rick, I´ve also tried giving my routers completely new ip adresses then using a static ip on my pc, this, sadly, also fails after hibernation!! I never had any problems occur whilst using XP and as you say this Vista problem seems to pop up quite often doing a google search.<br /> What gets to me most of all is that I´m learning to be a network admin one day and I can´t even get this problem fixed, LOL. Cheers, Matt </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/can%c2%b4t-connect-to-router-after-hibernation#post-99970 Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:24:00 +0000 LH 99970@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>This is not a hijack, but just more possible useful info. I do not use Sleep or Hibernate, but quite often when I shutdown my machine, it will not connect to the router after bootup (I have to go and unplug the router and do the 10 second countdown). It always connects on a Restart tho'. Just something to ponder. </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/can%c2%b4t-connect-to-router-after-hibernation#post-99967 Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:14:26 +0000 raphoenix 99967@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>@Matt,<br /> ---<br /> Yeah, I hard address the machines and wifi router plus never use hibernate nor sleep so have not experienced the issue but it does seem to come up often.<br /> ---<br /> Best Regards,<br /> Rick P. </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/can%c2%b4t-connect-to-router-after-hibernation#post-99966 Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:07:28 +0000 LH 99966@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>Does it happen if you use Hibernate ? </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/can%c2%b4t-connect-to-router-after-hibernation#post-99964 Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:59:57 +0000 madmacs 99964@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>Thx, Rick, but I have SP2 and everything up to date. Believe me, this isn´t going to be an easy one to solve because I have tried EVERYTHING I can in the last 6 months or so and nothing helps, lol. Sometimes the connection just comes back by itself (after having WLAN enabled) but I can`t find out why. Matt </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/can%c2%b4t-connect-to-router-after-hibernation#post-99963 Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:52:23 +0000 raphoenix 99963@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>@Beauseph,<br /> ---<br /> Yeah, I don't normally answer Vista postings but thought the MS document might be pertinent to this particular topic.<br /> ---<br /> Regards,<br /> Rick P. :) </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/can%c2%b4t-connect-to-router-after-hibernation#post-99962 Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:48:45 +0000 Beauseph 99962@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>Very nice Link Rick! It says to pretty much install service pack 2 as well.. </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/can%c2%b4t-connect-to-router-after-hibernation#post-99961 Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:47:13 +0000 raphoenix 99961@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>Just doing some MS reading today and ran across this.<br /> ---<br /> Don't know if applies to the issue or or not?<br /> ---<br /> <a href="http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/933872/en-us" rel="nofollow">http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/933872/en-us</a><br /> ---<br /> Regards,<br /> Rick P. </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/can%c2%b4t-connect-to-router-after-hibernation#post-99956 Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:29:36 +0000 Beauseph 99956@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>Do you have the latest driver updates? Do you have the latest service pact for vista? <a href="http://support.microsoft.com/kb/956119/en-us" rel="nofollow">http://support.microsoft.com/kb/956119/en-us</a> </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/can%c2%b4t-connect-to-router-after-hibernation#post-99955 Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:24:58 +0000 madmacs 99955@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>I use a dongle too when I can´t connect through LAN, but that´s just the easy way around my problem, lol. I want to know why Vista does this after hibernation!! The Fritzbox 7270 is probably the best all-in-one router you can buy in Germany. </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/can%c2%b4t-connect-to-router-after-hibernation#post-99953 Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:15:03 +0000 whs 99953@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>How do you finally conect? By turning the routers power off and on? - If that is the case, you may have the wrong "Idle Timeout" setting (in Basic Settings of the router). Best is to set it to 0 (zero).<br /> PS; I just see you have a Frtzbox. That damn thing is giving me all kinds of problems too on the wife's PC (but not the same as yours). I had to get the dongle because the integrated WiFi died. </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/can%c2%b4t-connect-to-router-after-hibernation#post-99949 Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:06:10 +0000 madmacs 99949@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>Hi all, I´ve had an ongoing battle with Vista for almost a year now. At the beginning I thought it must of been my router that was playing up, (it was my first post here I think) now I know it´s a Vista thing. </p> <p>Everytime I use the sleep button then restart I cannot connect to my router, therefore I am not able to connect to the internet. It´s a bloody pain in the backside!! I´ve <a href="http://www.google.de/search?q=vista+cannot+connect+to+router+after+hibernation&#38;ie=utf-8&#38;oe=utf-8&#38;aq=t&#38;rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&#38;client=firefox-a">googled</a> it seems to be a widespread Vista problem but I can´t find a real answer. I´ve tried changing the registry using the <a href="http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928233">MS KB 928233</a>, and have also used ncpa.cpl to turn off power management for my network adapter.</p> <p><img src="http://i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq72/madmacs7/LAN1-1.jpg" /></p> <p>Still no luck!! Have none of you guys ever had this problem before? It´s driving me nuts, lol. Thx in advance, Matt.</p> <p>P.S. I´ve tried ipconfig /all, /release, /renew etc. etc. I´ve tried using a static ip, used DHCP nothing helps.<br /> So now it´s your turns, LOL. :) </p>