http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ How-To Geek Forums Forum: Build Your Own PC en Tue, 02 Dec 2008 15:30:48 +0000 http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/first-build-1k-gaming-pc#post-59435 Tue, 02 Dec 2008 13:36:12 +0000 oprahsming 59435@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>thx thx... GREAT! now i can order the rest of my parts:D.... a bit conflicted on whether to go with the better buy or whats best for the build but from what i read the g skill is easily oced to the same speed as the cosair....sweet.... lol now i just need to learn to oc something:D </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/dvi-port-question#post-59425 Tue, 02 Dec 2008 09:40:39 +0000 jrich7720 59425@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>I'm choosing gear for my first build and I plan on including three displays. Through Google, I've found that video cards typically include 1 DVI port and one VGA port, but I'm not seeing how this relates to the case. I'd like to connect all three displays to the pc using DVI ports, I'd rather be prepared in the future/not perpetuate older technology(VGA). I'm assuming any new case I buy would at least include 1 DVI port, and that some kind of interconnect will be ran from the video card's port the the case's port; is this right? If so, am I going to find a case with three DVI ports? I also wanted to throw in an SLI or CrossfireX setup, but I've read that these do not support multiple display setups. If I go that route, will I be able to toggle SLI or CrossfireX on or off in order to utilize all three monitors?</p> <p>I greatly appreciate any input. Thank you. </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/first-build-for-cad-design-and-gaming#post-59421 Tue, 02 Dec 2008 08:29:05 +0000 jd2066 59421@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>&gt; "oh as far as vista, im reluctant to get it because I want to make sure all my programs are going continue working on it. I know a lot will, but I know at least one downloaded game does not. and i like that game."<br /> Ok. That makes sense.</p> <p>&gt; "I can hopefully just transfer my old floppy drive to the new system"<br /> I looked at the <a href="http://america.giga-byte.com/FileList/Manual/motherboard_manual_ga-ep45-ud3(r)_e.pdf">Motherbord manual</a> and it does have a floppy disc connector so you should be able to move it.<br /> Though from looking at the manual it appears you don't need to use a floppy drive to install Windows XP as the BIOS defaults to having the SATA drives work in an older IDE mode for compatibiliy.<br /> Note: If you want to "enable advanced Serial ATA features such as Native Command Queuing and hot plug" you need to install the SATA drivers after Windows XP is installed and then turn on the native SATA mode, ACHI by going to the BIOS setup, selecting "Integrated Peripherals", setting "SATA RAID/AHCI Mode" to "AHCI", and setting "SATA Port0-3 Native Mode" to "Enabled". </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/first-build-for-cad-design-and-gaming#post-59420 Tue, 02 Dec 2008 07:57:43 +0000 jd2066 59420@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>[ In edit ] </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/first-buildever#post-59419 Tue, 02 Dec 2008 07:46:37 +0000 jd2066 59419@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>&gt; "which from what I can tell shouldn't be a problem as long as I don't want to install any ancient software?"<br /> Correct. </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/first-build-1k-gaming-pc#post-59418 Tue, 02 Dec 2008 07:42:03 +0000 jd2066 59418@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>&gt; "rather not get in a software fight ill certainly lose:)... vista seems to be the accepted operating system so thats what ill go with "<br /> Ok, I don't want to get in a fight either. You can pick which ever one you want.<br /> Of which if like listed above you use Windows Vista 64-bit then you should know that it requires 64-bit drivers and will not work with 16-bit programs.<br /> Recent hardware will probably have 64-bit drivers and recent software is all 32-bit or 64-bit (32-bit software is supported in the 64-bit version).<br /> You may want to double check that before buying anything though. </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/first-buildever#post-59416 Tue, 02 Dec 2008 04:29:19 +0000 raphoenix 59416@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>rollelectric,<br /> Let me suggest one these MBs and CPUs (IF) you are future proofing your Build.<br /> Come 30 days, LGA 775s will be yesterday's headlines.<br /> <a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&#38;N=50001315&#38;Description=X58&#38;name=ASUS" rel="nofollow">http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&#38;N=50001315&#38;Description=X58&#38;name=ASUS</a><br /> <a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&#38;DEPA=0&#38;Order=BESTMATCH&#38;Description=X58&#38;x=15&#38;y=34" rel="nofollow">http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&#38;DEPA=0&#38;Order=BESTMATCH&#38;Description=X58&#38;x=15&#38;y=34</a><br /> <a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&#38;N=40000343&#38;Description=i7&#38;name=Processors%20-%20Desktops" rel="nofollow">http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&#38;N=40000343&#38;Description=i7&#38;name=Processors%20-%20Desktops</a> </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/first-buildever#post-59415 Tue, 02 Dec 2008 04:18:11 +0000 rollelectric 59415@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>This is what I have come up with all your help. Anything like absurd?</p> <p>Case: <a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129043">Antec Twelve Hundred Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case</a><br /> CPU: <a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115036">Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 Wolfdale 3.16GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80570E8500</a><br /> Motherboard: <a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813188024">EVGA 132-CK-NF78-A1 LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 780i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard</a><br /> Memory: <a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231166">G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory</a><br /> Video Card: <a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121285">ASUS ENGTX260 TOP/HTDI/896M GeForce GTX 260 896MB 448-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card</a><br /> Harddrive: <a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136218">Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD6400AAKS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive</a><br /> Power supply: <a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703009">PC Power &#38; Cooling S75QB 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI NVIDIA SLI Certified (Dual 8800 GTX and below) CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply</a><br /> Optic Drive: <a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151171">SAMSUNG 22X DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-S223F</a><br /> OS - 64bit vista </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/first-build-1k-gaming-pc#post-59410 Tue, 02 Dec 2008 03:03:04 +0000 SSSammy 59410@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>hmm you're right theres only one on that list thats 2x2gb ram. <a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231122">GSKILL</a> - Seems to have good reviews and its cheap</p> <p>that corsair memory you found is good to, especially with the 1066 but if you want something cheap then take the gskill i just mentioned </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/first-build-1k-gaming-pc#post-59409 Tue, 02 Dec 2008 02:54:01 +0000 oprahsming 59409@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>found <a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145197" rel="nofollow">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145197</a> witch seems like i would work and from what i read u can enable sli memory in bios and get 1066 speeds as advertised...... just wondering if ill be able to run 2 cards with this mem for sure......... hopefully i can find out 2marrow and be able to get my parts in by the end of the week.... then comes a whole new adventure:D kk hope u can help </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/first-build-1k-gaming-pc#post-59408 Tue, 02 Dec 2008 02:51:14 +0000 raphoenix 59408@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>oprahsming,</p> <p>You are aware that Intel is switching manufacturing fabs over to i7 1366 CPUs and X58 Chipsets ????<br /> Realize they are expensive right now but come January, the 775s will be yesterday's headlines.<br /> Suggest you wait on your build for a month. </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/first-build-1k-gaming-pc#post-59407 Tue, 02 Dec 2008 02:14:33 +0000 oprahsming 59407@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>:( im having some trouble finding 2 2g of mem that is supported buy my board on that list:/ and its all ddr3 and its hard to be sure about the SLI compatibility.... can i use ddr2 for this? ..... and the only one i found.. isnt cheap:/ can u help me out here?? if push comes to shove and i get the mem itll put me just over my budget :,( witch is kinda a pride thing at this part </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/tips-for-micro-atx-fitting-a-video-card#post-59396 Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:36:25 +0000 Scott 59396@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>Done </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/tips-for-micro-atx-fitting-a-video-card#post-59394 Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:29:59 +0000 rolofung 59394@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>oops i've posted in the wrong forum... how do i move it? </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/tips-for-micro-atx-fitting-a-video-card#post-59393 Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:23:03 +0000 rolofung 59393@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>I'm putting together a computer for myself and want some advice as I've not used the Micro ATX form factor before.<br /> Namely, if I get a mini-tower micro ATX case, will I have trouble fitting in the video card?</p> <p>Here is the case and video card I'm considering:<br /> <a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811108073" rel="nofollow">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811108073</a><br /> and<br /> <a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102726" rel="nofollow">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102726</a></p> <p>In case you're interested, here are the other things I'm planning to put into this build. I'd welcome your input! It's been a while since I've done this. I'm aiming for &lt;$800 usd total with speakers, monitor, wireless mouse/keyobard. And i'm probably sticking to winXP for now ;)</p> <p>mATX mobo: <a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813121094" rel="nofollow">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813121094</a><br /> core2duo cpu: <a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115052" rel="nofollow">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115052</a><br /> DVD burner: <a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106228" rel="nofollow">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106228</a><br /> 4gb ddr2: <a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145184" rel="nofollow">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145184</a><br /> 750gb SATA seagate: <a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148134" rel="nofollow">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148134</a> </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/first-buildever#post-59348 Mon, 01 Dec 2008 15:17:58 +0000 rollelectric 59348@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>Okay, I'll definitely consider that. It would like to avoid as many compatibility issues as I can :). </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/first-build-for-cad-design-and-gaming#post-59323 Mon, 01 Dec 2008 06:53:35 +0000 boss21784 59323@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>oh as far as vista, im reluctant to get it because I want to make sure all my programs are going continue working on it. I know a lot will, but I know at least one downloaded game does not. and i like that game. </p> <p>Also, I've downloaded a lot of the same effects that vista is known for, including stardock, vista start menu (though i dont think its actually what vistas start menu looks like), side dock, and also the vista log in screen, sounds, and I believe I can get the aero feature, though i havent really tried it cause i dont really know what it is. </p> <p>I can hopefully just transfer my old floppy drive to the new system as well, unless that takes a new kind of special connector also</p> <p>Oh i think the only thing i may be missing though im not sue if I need are possible additional fans, and maybe a different cpu fan... not sure though if its needed. </p> <p>anyway thanks for the help.. i better get to bed if i actually plan on getting up for class tomorrow. </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/first-build-for-cad-design-and-gaming#post-59322 Mon, 01 Dec 2008 06:43:07 +0000 boss21784 59322@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>Ive got a configuration down to about $805 if the mail in rebates work out, $905 with shipping otherwise. but then again, by the time i can afford this the deals may be over. I think i will just stick with xp home for now. i figure i can always buy software to let me have a remote desktop if i really need it. I probably wont for several years as i dont even know where Im going work right now as the market is crappy. I went with new egg after looking at the suggested builds posted. I like the fact they actually have a search that lets u choose based on features. but as usual i went through a billion options trying to find the perfect things. Im not even sure if all my parts i picked will go together. meaning if i have enough usb connectors/ right power connections ect. I wonder if i should still just get the 750 watt PSU from tiger direct that was only 50 bucks?<br /> I think i have to buy a new set of optical drives because i'm guessing the current ones are only have ide connectors. The dvd drive is the standard built in from dell, and i have a memorex dvd burner with lightscribe technology, if anyone knows the specs on that. I sure am wasting a lot of time looking at all this stuff for something im not even going be able to buy anytime soon, unless i use expected graduation money. Oh well, heres my current list.</p> <p> LG 22X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA Model GH22LS30 - OEM<br /> Item #: N82E16827136153 24.99</p> <p> ASUS Black SATA DVD-ROM Drive Model DVD-E818A3T - Retail<br /> Item #: N82E16827135176 $22.99</p> <p> Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD6400AAKS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM<br /> Item #: N82E16822136218 $69.99</p> <p>COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 CAC-T05-WW Black/Silver Aluminum Bezel, SECC Chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail<br /> Item #: N82E16811119077 $59.99</p> <p> MSI N9600GT 512M OC GeForce 9600 GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail<br /> Item #: N82E16814127333 $104.99 + $30 mail in rebate</p> <p> CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply - Retail<br /> Item #: N82E16817139005 $99.99 + $30 rebate</p> <p> nMEDIAPC ZE-C98 All-in-one USB 2.0 Card Reader with USB/IEEE 1394/e-SATA Port/HD Audio Ports - Retail<br /> Item #: N82E16820132020 $21.99</p> <p> OCZ Platinum 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model OCZ2P10664GK - Retail<br /> Item #: N82E16820227298 $79.99 +30 rebate --&gt; is this worth the price if the rebate falls through like some tend to do? or whats a cheaper alternative to just have 3gb since i cant use the one.</p> <p> GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3R LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail<br /> Item #: N82E16813128359 $108.99 +$15 rebate</p> <p> Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor Model BX80562Q6600 - Retail<br /> Item #: N82E16819115017 $189.99 --&gt; maybe this will be a lot cheaper by the time i can buy this</p> <p>Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition SP3 English for System Builders 1 Pack CD - OEM $89.99</p> <p>I think it all should be compatible, but i may not have enough usb connectors since I want that card reader, Im not sure though. </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/first-buildever#post-59321 Mon, 01 Dec 2008 06:38:01 +0000 SSSammy 59321@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>good choice in both videocard and psu (enough power for future upgrade)<br /> HOWEVER like i mentioned in the other thread, if you plan to buy another videocard in the future to crossfire, then radeon is NOT the way to go. ATI has many crossfire driver problems. Its a great videocard on its own, so if you plan to stick with only one card, then its a great choice but two in crossfire will most likely give you grief. </p> http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/first-build-1k-gaming-pc#post-59320 Mon, 01 Dec 2008 06:17:21 +0000 SSSammy 59320@http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/ <p>looks all good, except maybe the memory. its not on the <a href="http://www.evga.com/support/mbmem/">qualified vendors list</a> (qvl) for evga 780i motherboard, which means it hasnt been tested on your chosen mobo.</p> <p>i suggest picking one from the list, since they have already been tested, which means less chance of any compatibility problems. get a sli ready memory just to futureproof it a little.</p> <p>once you do that, then i think you're all set. well you could browse around for a second opinion but i think you'd good to go ;) </p>